Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Neiler]

I'm not opposed to the flu vaccine because we've had it for longer, it's definitively safe for all ages. I'm not opposed to this vaccine, when that's proven and I do still think there's doubts of some - rare - side-effects negating the positives of young children having the vaccine.

But, I am for kids getting the vaccine when they're more towards 15/16. And in a year's time if they can develop a vaccine dose that, like the flu vaccine, can be administered annually then perhaps then look at it in younger kids.

i don't think that's a controversial opinion to hold. I think every adult should get the vaccine and 16-17 year olds too, and I don't see anything wrong with 15-16 yr olds getting it in school either.

We’re starting our vaccine programme for kids now, a lot of work has been done in safe dosing and a specialist vaccine programme for children.

To be honest, I’ve long been of the belief that children are driving waves in communites since adults have become mostly vaccinated, they certainly are here. I’d come at it a different way, children rely on us to make the best decisions for their welfare. Childhood is a high density period of vaccination anyway. Children are ripe developmentally, the years of this is a long time for a child, not to play, socialise, be educated or be exposed to adversary anxiety, getting back to normal should be more for our children than anything in their formative years of development.

They are a big price of the puzzle for me, if we can stop infections in schools and from school to home it’s a huge boost.

 

[Groucho]

What’s the point in restricting hospitality for a fortnight when 75% of customers walk round Asda and Aldi with no mask?

 

[Tipp blue]

We’re starting our vaccine programme for kids now, a lot of work has been done in safe dosing and a specialist vaccine programme for children.

To be honest, I’ve long been of the belief that children are driving waves in ommunitrs, they certainly are here. I’d come at it a different way, children rely on us to make the best decisions for their welfare. Childhood is a high density period of vaccination anyway. Children are ripe developmentally, the years of this is a long time for a child, not to play, socialise, be educated or be exposed to adversary anxiety, getting back to normal should be more for our children than anything in their formative years of development.

They are a big price of the puzzle for me, if we can stop infections in schools and from school to home it’s a huge boost.

Why bother?, we are continually being told that the vaccine does not stop infection and does not stop transmission, the main thing it does is stop people getting seriously ill which children mostly haven't been, vaccinate vunerable children let the rest catch it and develop proper immunity.

 

[Neiler]

Why bother?, we are continually being told that the vaccine does not stop infection and does not stop transmission, the main thing it does is stop people getting seriously ill which children mostly haven't been, vaccinate vunerable children let the rest catch it and develop proper immunity.

Whose constantly telling you that mate? It doesnt eliminate, but it does offer protection. Was looking at data on the train yesterday, of number of households who have been exposed to Covid, where close contactsl who you would expect to be infected that weren’t, we all have different antibody and T-Cell activation responses to vaccines. There isn’t an absolute.

 

[Tipp blue]

Whose constantly telling you that mate?

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[ForeverBlue92]

Why bother?, we are continually being told that the vaccine does not stop infection and does not stop transmission, the main thing it does is stop people getting seriously ill which children mostly haven't been, vaccinate vunerable children let the rest catch it and develop proper immunity.

Sadly the world has gone COVID mad.

You would think hundreds of people are dying in the streets with this thing / mutating into zombies.

Booster the over 40's let the rest of us get on with it.

 

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It’s like I said above it doesn’t eliminate but offers some protection and isn’t absolute. Can’t believe we are this far into the pandemic and still having these conversations, there are no absolutes, if your looking for one on either side, you won’t find it.

The good news with vaccinating children, is they have a massively strong immune system in the main, a good vaccine programme will really activate their immune response.

 

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There is a difference between passing it on and contracting it in the first place. Vaccines don’t prevent you from passing it on if you get it. They do lower the risk of you getting it in the first place. If you don’t get it then you can’t pass it on.

This has been explained over and over again and it feels like people are being deliberately obtuse about it now.

 

[Ghost Rider]

There will be an increase in hospitalisations because of course there will be , far too many unvaccinated to rule that notion out given this version will spread to them much quicker.

To what extent will existing health issues play a part in this combined with the winter?

Given that very few, if any double / triple vaccinated people will even go near a hospital from covid , due to , well the vaccine. The numbers could well be inflated by the press to create a scenario that isn't true.

I still don't see the hysteria in all of this. I don't see where these inflated numbers come from directly from covid. If the message was any covid patients on top of what will be expected being an issue then that is a completely different message. However we aren't being told that, everything yet again is covid or nothing. Every hospital case will be called covid, that large number in a few weeks or so will be loosely described as covid.

Either we will be saying 'give it 2 weeks for the data' for the next 2 months or we will be attributing everything to a mild symptom virus.

Because if it is so transmissible, then the chance of anyone testing positive but being ill for a million other reasons increases greatly. It just seems like that part is being forgotten.

 

[grandjoeblue]

This was always going to happen with COVID being rife in London. Hopefully will mean deaths might be kept at some sort of manageable level.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The flu vaccine is modified every year.

And very rarely get above 50% effectiveness given the many strains in circulation at any given time.

Still I've had mine this year myself it's all about reducing the risk, don't want to be having COVID and Flu together.

 

[Tipp blue]

It’s like I said above it doesn’t eliminate but offers some protection and isn’t absolute. Can’t believe we are this far into the pandemic and still having these conversations, there are no absolutes, if your looking for one on either side, you won’t find it.

The good news with vaccinating children, is they have a massively strong immune system in the main, a good vaccine programme will really activate their immune response.

Which is why they don't need a vaccine for this, complete overreaction and totally unnecessary.. sledgehammer to crack a nut.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Sage again pushing for big restrictions. Need to start ignoring them. This is all a big overreaction to a milder illness

 

[tsubaki]

Sadly the world has gone COVID mad.

You would think hundreds of people are dying in the streets with this thing / mutating into zombies.

Booster the over 40's let the rest of us get on with it.

hundreds of people have been dying in the hospitals, streets and homes with this thing though?

 

[Tipp blue]

hundreds of people have been dying in the hospitals, streets and homes with this thing though?

I've yet to see one person dead in the street.