@tsubaki btw I would definitely be in favour of introducing a 2-day isolation for Omicron contacts, with a PCR test at the start of day three. That would mean that it's a 3-4 day isolation period, which includes a PCR test. It's more manageable than 10 days, it can easily be done and you could then have daily LF testing after that too, as if the infection was in your system it would pick it up by that time (but so would the PCR anyway, it's just another level of testing).
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tsubaki
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I think you’ve misread things again. People do ten days isolation because that’s how quickly it usually takes to go away; if you’ve still got symptoms after ten days that’s when they said you should seek medical advice.
If the advice is go to hospital, it’s then that they get treated and assessed and only then (when that’s not worked) that they’d go on ventilators and so on until the end. This can happen quickly but is more often several days / weeks.
This is something that’s clearly seen in both previous lockdowns so I don’t understand how it’s difficult to grasp.
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It makes a huge difference given the amount of people that can be in that pool. The smaller it gets, the less likely you will see a huge demand on the NHS. You have to remember a patient being admitted doesn't mean seriously ill, many will be discharged after 24 hours to recover at home. To what rate I have no idea in comparison to seriously ill however.
It's a theoretical number that isn't applied to a realistic one. Just the same as a model predicting numbers is based on worst case scenarios.
So saying theoretically 1% may happen or it may not. But to what extent are they going to be serious? To what extent is that going to even get near a vaccinated person currently at 2 jabs?
I do have a question , not sure if you know the answer to it. Who was it that said we needed a third dose? I don't remember ever reading where that came from, not that it matters seeing as though I got it done 3 months ago!
Which is a point actually as I write that. When I got my booster it was on the line of I just needed it, but now getting a booster is to combat a variant. So why has the reason changed when it was already established?
I don't think that's actually true. They say 10 days is the time you could be infectious isn't it?
If you have severe/bad symptoms from COVID for more than 6-7 days mate that's when you should probably seek help.
I'm going off my experience, the experience of my sister and brother-in-law (who were unvaccinated at the time), my dad, my friends.
None of us had symptoms (or even kept testing positive) for longer than a week. My sister and brother-in-law had worse after-effects, definitely, but they weren't ill. Same with me, 5 days of illness (6 days of testing positive, though I could well have been positive before I did test as as I've said before I was feeling fine and had no reason to test until I did one to go to work).
Same with my friends, 5-6 days of illness (for those who got ill - one of them was just 3 days but he had very, very mild symptoms). The only people I know of personally who have ended up in hospital due to COVID, have been really bad for going on past a week. Two of them sadly died (my dad's cousin and my mate's granddad, another was someone my age who ended up on Oxygen, had asthma but fortunately he's fine now)
If you're healthy and/or vaccinated, you aren't going to be ill for 10 days and if you get near that at all you should be going to hospital.
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My fave British pornstar too understands what's going on...
It’s because “ normal people “ don’t believe a word this government says anymore Neil.
More and more people are starting to become “ suspicious “ of the governments advice and ultimately their motives too.
Yeah, you’re right that the level of trust in government and institutions is non existent. My problem is that to assign them ulterior motives and some type of secret master plan, is to assume they’ve got a level of competence, which they clearly don’t have.
Johnson forgets to wear a mask when he’s in a hospital.
He got Covid after shaking the hands of Covid patients in hospital.
The fella can’t organise a p!ss up in Downing Street without coming a cropper.
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Oh the government is useless, but you cant use that as a reason to believe everything is a conspiracy re covid
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TBF "forgets" to wear a mask is probably to give him too much credit - its happened repeatedly, and those of his ilk don't believe in them anyway.
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Anyone else received a text from their GP? A few friends have received messages all along the same lines of “we first heard about this booster rollout at the same time as you-8pm last night. Don’t contact us unless it’s extremely urgent”.
All this talk about protecting the NHS to keep it functional. That ship has long sailed.
All this talk about protecting the NHS to keep it functional. That ship has long sailed.
If they bring in a lockdown with 90% of the population vaccinated, then lots will refuse to take the booster. People see this as a social contract between the state and its people. If you got a vaccine you were doing your bit to restore normality. If the government bring in restrictions that that agreement has been broken. And I can understand that way of thinking too, although I will still get a booster myself.
There is still no evidence this variant is that severe, yet they keep giving us these doomsday worst case scenarios. If experts want to be taken seriously then they have to start making realistic predictions and stop the scare stories. They have been wrong so often that they have lost the trust of the public.
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A strange take this - the people who’ve been wrong here are those who believed the government that vaccination alone would lead us out of this.
Lots of experts pointed out that it probably wouldn’t, that more varied measures would be required, that what we were doing would run the risk of exactly this sort of thing happening. Most importantly that we are on this for the long haul.
Yet now here we are, people who didn’t listen to experts the first time saying they won’t listen to them from now on, they’ll listen to the lockdown skeptics (even though they’ve been the wrongest people of all) instead.
I’m on the phone to work now
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