Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

So what's the solution? Because it isn't what Pagel is saying.

If someone is judged as a close contact of someone with Omicron the rule is they have to do daily tests. This is to avoid a huge proportion of the country isolating for 10 days.

Imagine how many times frontline workers would get judged to be close contacts?

Imagine how many people one of these contacts could infect if they've caught it from their contact; that is the point of doing this sort of thing.

One nurse catches COVID, and has ten close contacts at work. If they all isolate, thats 11 people out. If those ten instead catch COVID from the nurse but because they've not isolated quickly enough go on to pass it on to their ten close contacts at work who themselves go on to develop COVID, thats 111 people out.

Testing close contacts and making sure isolating is done properly (and is supported) is possible, but it needs to be done in a controlled way and not with the responsibility outsourced to members of the public.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[coollino]

hope they were over zoom...

No, people at work actually like me. I think

 

[woomy]

They're scrapping the red list but bringing in the mandatory daily testing for those who arrive into the country aren't they? That one that's been in place for a few weeks. It's just scrapping the enforced hotel quarantine which is friggin horrible.

Also, telling people to isolate if they're contacts of Omicron cases as Pagel suggests is mental. It is going to be everywhere, you'd cripple the country. You literally wouldn't have any healthcare workers able to work...

Here is the issue though. We are still told to stay off work if we have any symptoms.
So, going into cold season. We have symptoms.
Where I am is decimated for staff at the minute. We have a chest infection going around. Which I had. Pretty nasty, but because it looks like COVID, we have to stay off.
It's going to be a hard winter for NHS staffing.

 

[NathDogg]

This booster programme seems to be more about politics than it is about public health, as if this is the only thing worth doing that won't see him get criticised again.

At the cost of cancelling other appointments.

So glad I don't have any friends for family waiting on any non-covid hospital appointment waiting lists, as the pm has just trashed them to get a positive story out about him into the papers, and it seems the sheeple are lapping it up.

Pulling his target forward a month for the new third Jab (it's not a booster as clearly, we all have nothing to boost in our systems now) is something the lying prick and his pr spin team have cooked up to get the lockdown party stuff off the front pages - It crystal clear he's politicising this whole thing.

 

[Neiler]

Imagine how many people one of these contacts could infect if they've caught it from their contact; that is the point of doing this sort of thing.

One nurse catches COVID, and has ten close contacts at work. If they all isolate, thats 11 people out. If those ten instead catch COVID from the nurse but because they've not isolated quickly enough go on to pass it on to their ten close contacts at work who themselves go on to develop COVID, thats 111 people out.

Testing close contacts and making sure isolating is done properly (and is supported) is possible, but it needs to be done in a controlled way and not with the responsibility outsourced to members of the public.

Not to mention patients and their family members.

 

[BlueToff]

I saw some similar footage today of riots in Melbourne, that hasn’t been reported on for some reason.

that was just the barmy army mate, trying to keep the team away

 

[BlueToff]

Imagine how many people one of these contacts could infect if they've caught it from their contact; that is the point of doing this sort of thing.

One nurse catches COVID, and has ten close contacts at work. If they all isolate, thats 11 people out. If those ten instead catch COVID from the nurse but because they've not isolated quickly enough go on to pass it on to their ten close contacts at work who themselves go on to develop COVID, thats 111 people out.

Testing close contacts and making sure isolating is done properly (and is supported) is possible, but it needs to be done in a controlled way and not with the responsibility outsourced to members of the public.

They have to test. Daily.

You can't have that many people isolating. The country would shut down. Completely.

 

[BlueToff]

Not to mention patients and their family members.

But they do have to test daily, which surely is better than people isolating if they don't have the bloody thing?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

This'll go down well.

Good! Would not take much for nominated health professionals to confirm some one is medically unfit to have vaccination. Would imagine most HRs would be aware of employee who would be exempt, because of severe reactions and anaphylactic shock, be idiocy keeping that secret so no big privacy being broken.

 

[BlueToff]

Here is the issue though. We are still told to stay off work if we have any symptoms.
So, going into cold season. We have symptoms.
Where I am is decimated for staff at the minute. We have a chest infection going around. Which I had. Pretty nasty, but because it looks like COVID, we have to stay off.
It's going to be a hard winter for NHS staffing.

it's ridiculous - and I'm not having a go at you.

My mum and dad currently have a chest infection. My dad is struggling to breathe atm. They're both fully boosted, have both tested negative on PCR and LFs. It might well be the same chest infection I had in November, I was bad for 2 weeks, but because I had COVID I knew it wasn't COVID.

I can't believe they are having people stay off if they test negative. Testing for healthcare workers should be in place that it's rapid and easy to access for all etc

 

[tsubaki]

They have to test. Daily.

You can't have that many people isolating. The country would shut down. Completely.

You’ll get more people isolating who are actually with COVID though if this isn’t done properly. That’s the point here, and it’s something our government have serially failed to learn.

 

[BlueToff]

You’ll get more people isolating who are actually with COVID though if this isn’t done properly. That’s the point here, and it’s something our government have serially failed to learn.

but hang on, they introduced 10-day automatic isolation at first, 2 weeks ago or whatever it was, then changed their mind last week when it became clear it would completely knacker the country - and I'm not just talking about the economy.

When we're two years into this, so many have been vaccinated/boosted (especially frontline workers too) then surely daily testing is absolutely the way forward?

Either that, or a two-day PCR with view to release on day 3, and daily testing from then on?

 

[woomy]

it's ridiculous - and I'm not having a go at you.

My mum and dad currently have a chest infection. My dad is struggling to breathe atm. They're both fully boosted, have both tested negative on PCR and LFs. It might well be the same chest infection I had in November, I was bad for 2 weeks, but because I had COVID I knew it wasn't COVID.

I can't believe they are having people stay off if they test negative. Testing for healthcare workers should be in place that it's rapid and easy to access for all etc

Your right. It is ridiculous. I fully believe, that all patient facing staff should take a lateral flow test everyday.

 

[Neiler]

But they do have to test daily, which surely is better than people isolating if they don't have the bloody thing?

Depends on the test mate, antigen tests aren’t 100% reliable for a number of reasons, better than nothing mind. A PCR test in my experience, we do them weekly in work as a precaution routinely, is a two to three day turn around here for test - result.

Our policy in the health service here is if you have a symptom that’s it, you self isolate and await a PCR result before you go back on duty. As I was saying happened to me a couple of weeks ago with a head cold, sent home, PCR self isolate. Strangely the PCR result comes back quicker for the ones organised through our public portal, rather than the ones we do weekly in work.

Not sure what theNHS policy, but I’d be surprised if it wasn’t self isolation and PCR if they had symptoms.