Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[ForeverBlue92]

This goes against everything in the UK press. Everything I have read points towards a huge wave and they keep saying there's no evidence of the variant being milder. Everything out of South Africa seems to be disregarded.

I get that everyone should have the booster. I've had mine but I don't see the urgency with the younger age groups, 18-30 year olds have probably only had their second doses relatively recently.

When you realise the majority who are at the top of society are in their 60's+ you'll understand why they aint bothered about any adverse reactions in the young.

 

[grandjoeblue]

When you realise the majority who are at the top of society are in their 60's+ you'll understand why they aint bothered about any adverse reactions in the young.

I'm not anti vax at all. I just don't get the need for younger people to be done so quickly. After 2 doses surely their chances of hospitalisation are minimum. Especially looking at the hospitalisation rates in SA. Surely the most appropriate approach would be to ensure everyone over 40 or so are triple vaccinated.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I'm not anti vax at all. I just don't get the need for younger people to be done so quickly. After 2 doses surely their chances of hospitalisation are minimum. Especially looking at the hospitalisation rates in SA. Surely the most appropriate approach would be to ensure everyone over 40 or so are triple vaccinated.

I had an adverse reaction to my 2nd jab and have a hosi appointment end of the month so wont be getting any booster shot until I find out more.

Anyone 45+ I've always said go out and get it but being under 30 myself I don't see the urgency being double jabbed I should have enough protection to keep me out of hospital.

If I dont 5 months post 2 jabs then something isn't right!

 

[Ghost Rider]

Everything out of South Africa seems to be disregarded.

Funny you should say that.

South African virologists are some of the best in the world apparantly hence how they found the variant before anybody else did.

Makes you wonder, if world class virologists alongside a nation's medical element are saying the same thing and the UK counterparts are saying something different.

Which one knows better?

 

[Blue 1]

Sick of it all, no longer care. I'll get my booster jab at some point and I'll try and be sensible, but I'm not listening to anything that inveterate liar of a PM has to say about it, the useless shagsack.

 

[Toast]

Sick of it all, no longer care. I'll get my booster jab at some point and I'll try and be sensible, but I'm not listening to anything that inveterate liar of a PM has to say about it, the useless shagsack.

Think I’m with you now.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Not the SA update that was hoped for, seems like yesterday’s dramatic drop in cases was data issue sadly.

 

[Neiler]

Really ambitious target to get everyone in the U.K. boosted by the end of Dec, fair play!

 

[Neiler]

Not the SA update that was hoped for, seems like yesterday’s dramatic drop in cases was data issue sadly.

Yikes that a very high positivity rate, almost 1 in 3.

 

[AdamEFC]

Really ambitious target to get everyone in the U.K. boosted by the end of Dec, fair play!

At the cost of cancelling other appointments.

 

[Neiler]

At the cost of cancelling other appointments.

Britsh Army being brought in to help mobilise I believe.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Yikes that a very high positivity rate, almost 1 in 3.

Very low amount of tests compared to European countries. The 21 deaths is still low, deaths haven't really increased yet based on the last month or two of available data.

 

[Neiler]

Very low amount of tests compared to European countries. The 21 deaths is still low, deaths haven't really increased yet based on the last month or two of available data.

Not sure the number of tests matters mate, it’s the % of swabs (as above) that generally gives the best indication of community transmission.

Personally I don’t trust test nos, for example the U.K. count Antigen/lateral flow tests, we don’t just PCR , we buy antigen tests in a newsagents and just bin them, they aren’t an “official” test here. So our cumlative official tests are all PCR. If we included antigen tests that figure would jump by many multiples.

There is a spectrum of reaction at the moment, a lot of early data and science saying it may be milder illness, however transmissibility is wild and the positive % rate above indicates it. We have the most excuse the pun “conservative“ Goverment in Europe in terms of restrictions shifting in their seat tonight and are concerned, I think that is telling.

My own interpretation is the big risk and fear is the surge. I think what hasn’t been said is we are in the middle of a pretty significant Delta wave, we’re slap bang in the flu season. In terms of hospital capacity we have very high numbers of services full right across the continent, a surge of omicron on top of where we are could buckle hospital services. That’s how I read the U.K. tonight shifting in their seat tonight and the biggest risk now until March. The game we’re in now is protecting society to protect health services.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Yikes that a very high positivity rate, almost 1 in 3.

Not the highest they have had, a eye popping 51% in one province during Delta, but was hoping that it was running out of new people to infect. Cross fingers that once all the data backlog is worked through we get some better info.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Not sure the number of tests matters mate, it’s the % of swabs (as above) that generally gives the best indication of community transmission.

Personally I don’t trust test nos, for example the U.K. count Antigen/lateral flow tests, we don’t just PCR , we buy antigen tests in a newsagents and just bin them, they aren’t an “official” test here. So our cumlative official tests are all PCR. If we included antigen tests that figure would jump by many multiples.

There is a spectrum of reaction at the moment, a lot of early data and science saying it may be milder illness, however transmissibility is wild and the positive % rate above indicates it. We have the most excuse the pun “conservative“ Goverment in Europe in terms of restrictions shifting in their seat tonight and are concerned, I think that is telling.

My own interpretation is the big risk and fear is the surge. I think what hasn’t been said is we are in the middle of a pretty significant Delta wave, we’re slap bang in the flu season. In terms of hospital capacity we have very high numbers of services full right across the continent, a surge of omicron on top of where we are could buckle hospital services. That’s how I read the U.K. tonight shifting in their seat tonight and the biggest risk now until March. The game we’re in now is protecting society to protect health services.

Think it the impact in both demand and supply that is causing a reassessment.

Seen at least three hospitals (Malaga, one in Scotland, Oakland here in California) take a hit on emergency staff due to Omicron. Thankfully all their outbreaks seem to be mild due to highly vaccinated staff but still need to quarantine and thus find other staff to cover.