Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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6 people died in the state under the age of 25 in the whole pandemic, whether that's directly of covid who knows? If they are shutting the country down to protect this age group god help us unless you enjoy our new normal.

The country isn’t shut down mate, that’s just hyperbole. Looking at an isolated stat like mortality isn’t indicative, you have to weigh infection rate systemically and look at secondary and chaired infection coming from the primary cohort, it’s one age group driving secondary infection in other age groups, thus driving a wave. We need to do more for children, if we’d have been clever around schools, mitigation and vaccination this could have been better managed.

This all could have been managed way better if the prevailing logic wasn't “sure kids are grand”. We can still better manage this better for children and at the same time protect broader society.
 
The country isn’t shut down mate, that’s just hyperbole. Looking at an isolated star like mortality isn’t indicative, you have to weigh infection rate systemically, it’s one age group driving secondary infection in other age groups, thus driving a wave. We need to more for children, if we’d have been clever around schools, mitigation and vaccination this could have been better managed.

This all could have been managed way better if the prevailing logic wasn't “sure kids are grand”. We can still better manage this for children and at the same time protect broader society.
But all these Twitter gospels are showing nearly zero vaccinated people dying now. So if the vaccination rates are 80-90% and the young are fighting it off like any other virus who are we protecting now? People will get ill forever more, as long as it's not leading to death which the vaccine has provided are we hiding away forever?
 
The country isn’t shut down mate, that’s just hyperbole. Looking at an isolated star like mortality isn’t indicative, you have to weigh infection rate systemically, it’s one age group driving secondary infection in other age groups, thus driving a wave. We need to more for children, if we’d have been clever around schools, mitigation and vaccination this could have been better managed.

This all could have been managed way better if the prevailing logic wasn't “sure kids are grand”. We can still better manage this for children and at the same time protect broader society.
Who cares what's driving it, the case jumpers ain't translating into hospitalisations.. the booster vaccines are having the desired effect, adding restrictions now is quite possibly the dumbest move the government have made in a long line of dumb moves, hospital numbers are declining that is what we were told was the most important thing, putting in restrictions now just smacks of we are doing it because we can what we have been told about hospital admissions has just been thrown out the window.
Kids in general are grand, I wonder how many of the 600ish children who have been treated in hospital with covid actually were there because of covid, and not because they have a serious other condition and caught covid, if either of my children had a serious condition and they caught covid I'd have them off to hospital regardless of how serious the covid was.
Numbers without context means nothing.
 
But all these Twitter gospels are showing nearly zero vaccinated people dying now. So if the vaccination rates are 80-90% and the young are fighting it off like any other virus who are we protecting now? People will get ill forever more, as long as it's not leading to death which the vaccine has provided are we hiding away forever?

Who said anyone’s hiding or wants to, what I’m saying is we can better protect people, surely that’s worthwhile and a good thing. If we accept this thing is ongoing and we’re going to live with, then we should be constantly looking at ways to best live with…….nothing is all or nothing mate.
 
Who said anyone’s hiding or wants to, what I’m saying is we can better protect people, surely that’s worthwhile and a good thing. If we accept this thing is ongoing and we’re going to live with, then we should be constantly looking at ways to best live with…….nothing is all or nothing mate.
Restrictions are one after another, let's accept this thing is ongoing I agree and live with it, vaccinations work. People will always die with this in their system, like many other viruses if you track them around too to the level covid has been.
Time to stop the fear mongering.
 
Who cares what's driving it, the case jumpers ain't translating into hospitalisations.. the booster vaccines are having the desired effect, adding restrictions now is quite possibly the dumbest move the government have made in a long line of dumb moves, hospital numbers are declining that is what we were told was the most important thing, putting in restrictions now just smacks of we are doing it because we can what we have been told about hospital admissions has just been thrown out the window.
Kids in general are grand, I wonder how many of the 600ish children who have been treated in hospital with covid actually were there because of covid, and not because they have a serious other condition and caught covid, if either of my children had a serious condition and they caught covid I'd have them off to hospital regardless of how serious the covid was.
Numbers without context means nothing.

I don’t necessarily agree with all the restrictions, I do with a good few of them - they never should have opened up in Oct any way that was stupid, should have done it in May. No surprise they have regressed. Go back to when they did, I said it at the time.

I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing, we are all expecting a kick back in Jan and Feb, so they are trying to mitigate, I’m not convinced it will have much of an impact, but I see what they are trying to do. I don’t think they picked the really big things that would make a difference, so I’m not expecting to see one.

Whatever your own opinion mate, for the points I’ve already said, no point repeating the, again, we need to be doing for and with children as a group. Good news is 1.5 mill vaccines for children arriivjng in the 13th of Dec, to slow, but at least they are coming! I’d be prioritising kids now over boosters myself.
 
Who said anyone’s hiding or wants to, what I’m saying is we can better protect people, surely that’s worthwhile and a good thing. If we accept this thing is ongoing and we’re going to live with, then we should be constantly looking at ways to best live with…….nothing is all or nothing mate.
The way we are going about living with it is the opposite of the best way to live with it, those in society that are the least effected by covid are the most effected by the restrictions and vice versa.
 
Restrictions are one after another, let's accept this thing is ongoing I agree and live with it, vaccinations work. People will always die with this in their system, like many other viruses if you track them around too to the level covid has been.
Time to stop the fear mongering.

Fear mongering or Not coping with reality, it’s a spectrum really, a lot work being done at the moment on how people are implementing coping strategies to a prolonged period of Covid and induced anexity, uncertainty, loss, adjustment, transition and adversary. It’s fascinating stuff, that often boils down to redametory fight or flight. You can see it in the varying opinion on this threa.

I think of it more as a flux or spectrum..someone said to me earlier the only thing worse than anti vaxers, are pro lock downers and the only thing worse than that are those who believe It’s all over - it’s all coping really.

Day to Day, just follow the science.
 
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