Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Martin Alvito]

Just an alternative take on South Africa.

They have very few vaccinated people on comparison to other countries and we are entering winter which has a tendancy to spread viruses more.

I wonder if the spread of a virus in a population that is largely unvaccinated is being blown out of proportion given what they have told the world , out of proportion in regards to trying to find a deeper meaning beyond the obvious.

If south Africa had similar vaccinated rates as the UK , would those numbers still be as high? Or if another country announced the variant , would their numbers be scrutinised as much as this?

It's almost summer there.

The issue is the steepness of the curve. People are getting infected faster than they were in a no-vaccine world. If I wanted to take your position, I would argue it this way - odds are that the initial curve was as steep if not steeper, but the tests to confirm a substantial fraction of infections simply were not available.

Given the unreliable character of the data in the initial wave of infections, it's not really possible to know what the baseline infection rate was. If we're exceeding the observed baseline rate, though, it strongly suggests that past infections do not confer immunity, and is suggestive that existing vaccines may be only partially effective or ineffective.

There is no way of knowing what would happen if the variant started out in the UK without actually observing the case, and we don't have a good way of predicting what would happen without more data than we currently have.

 

[Sinski]

Just an alternative take on South Africa.

They have very few vaccinated people on comparison to other countries and we are entering winter which has a tendancy to spread viruses more.

I wonder if the spread of a virus in a population that is largely unvaccinated is being blown out of proportion given what they have told the world , out of proportion in regards to trying to find a deeper meaning beyond the obvious.

If south Africa had similar vaccinated rates as the UK , would those numbers still be as high? Or if another country announced the variant , would their numbers be scrutinised as much as this?

Its summer there.

 

[LinekersLegs]

The data from cov-boost, a large UK trial studying the impact ofdifferent boosters just been released.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Can someone please explain why the Astrazenica vaccine that millions of us have had has disappeared??

It's never talked about our referred to at all any more..

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Can someone please explain why the Astrazenica vaccine that millions of us have had has disappeared??

It's never talked about our referred to at all any more..

Simply not as good or effective as the others despite what flag wavers will have you believe. The rest of world knew it, just not here, Boris in Wonder land.

 

[MikeH72]

Simply not as good or effective as the others despite what flag wavers will have you believe. The rest of world knew it, just not here, Boris in Wonder land.

You are bizarre.

 

[Neiler]

Can someone please explain why the Astrazenica vaccine that millions of us have had has disappeared??

It's never talked about our referred to at all any more..

This was published yesterday.

Study finds possible 'trigger' for rare AZ blood clot

Scientists believe they may have found the "trigger" behind the extremely rare blood clot complications stemming from the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.

www.rte.ie

 

[woomy]

Can someone please explain why the Astrazenica vaccine that millions of us have had has disappeared??

It's never talked about our referred to at all any more..

Are they even doing boosters. They were doing this at cost apparently. So may have decided to call it a day once most had been double jabbed.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Can someone please explain why the Astrazenica vaccine that millions of us have had has disappeared??

It's never talked about our referred to at all any more..

India was going to be a major supplier worldwide of the AZ vaccine but when they had their awful Detla outbreak they stopped exports and used it to vaccination domestic population. They have recently restarted their exports.

When the rare side effect of blood clots was discovered Canada and a lot of Europe restricted its use to older people so as got down the age groups increasingly more of the mRNA vaccines were used and, combined with the deicsions to boost with mRNA because of the generally stronger antibody results, AZ became less of the mix delivered.


Some of the AZ vaccines those countries had were donated to Covax for lower income countries.

Whilst AZ is logistically easier to store, so probably more suitable for areas with less infrastructure, the doses were often close to the end of their shelf life complicated distribution and, combined with the impression that AZ was the cast off vaccine, has unfortunately led to some vaccine hesitancy to the use of AZ.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Btw as the article I posted above re JNJ vaccine and this immunologist speculates


it is possible that priming with the adenovirus vaccines end up being a bit better against Omicron due to their T cell stimulation so AZ may yet have another turn in the sun.

 

[LinekersLegs]

All of these assessments have “low confidence” or “insufficient data” so it is possible that as we gather more data it will improve the outlook.


A good walkthrough on the report

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

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[Ghost Rider]

What are the hospital rate increases off the back of the increased cases? Googling it doesn't seem to tell me much