Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Glad you are getting a booster Toff, afterwards you and @maccavennie should compete as to who has the higher antibody numbers ;)

Oh I was gonna get it if needed Legs... Now I'm still not sure exactly that it's right that they've - on the flip of a coin it seems - decided that 3 months was fine when it had been 5 months but I know it's not gonna kill me. Like I said though, gonna give it a few weeks so I can at least enjoy some time off. The last two times I've had any sort of break was for a wisdom tooth out and then when I got COVID (in some holiday time I'd booked off when I was self-employed, so I don't wanna waste this one :D )

Both my parents have had their boosters and my sister just had her second jab this morning.
 
Reading something on the nursing times. They reckon 208k staff are unvaccinated at this time. Witham estimate that 50% of those will refuse to be vaccinated.
Well that's going to make for a jolly conversation in April. How the hell do we replace all of them?
Who’s the blame them aswel for not wanting the vaccine and these are the ones on the front line, seeing this “pandemic” day in day out.
 
I see the supermarkets are rightfully telling the government to swivel with their half arsed mask mandate. Good on them.

Expecting anyone to enforce that in the current circumstances with the leader breaking it himself is, unfortunately, doomed.

It should absolutely be brought in though in supermarkets.
 
'Quarantine' comes from Venice, were sick people were placed in the local foundry...Getto in Italian, for 40 days...Quarantina.
Or so one source quotes
 
I ask this as an open ended question that after 18 months is a very valid one to ask.

Should we (I) be following the exact rules given to me considering the person (s) telling me to follow them isn't following them?

What actual value is in rules if the person who makes them up or any of the fellow people around them don't believe in them?

Before you get all sciencey with it, it's a philosophical question. If the person telling you to do something isn't doing it themselves then how can you trust the instruction to begin with?
 
i agree it should, but I also think its unfair on the staff to police it. yet again, its the lower paid workers who are taking the brunt of all of this.

Imagine being a bus driver at 11pm at night on your own having to tell some of these people to put masks on. Hard enough job as it is with some of the drunk idiots on Friday and Saturday nights never mind trying to enforce masks too.
 
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I ask this as an open ended question that after 18 months is a very valid one to ask.

Should we (I) be following the exact rules given to me considering the person (s) telling me to follow them isn't following them?

What actual value is in rules if the person who makes them up or any of the fellow people around them don't believe in them?

Before you get all sciencey with it, it's a philosophical question. If the person telling you to do something isn't doing it themselves then how can you trust the instruction to begin with?
Fair question. But I would say that makes the person who comes up with the rules, a poor leader. Your own values and morality will determine which way you go. However saying that. It looks like, especially around Manchester, the majority are sacking this mask thing off.
Just returned from a quick trip to aldi. Forgot me burger buns yesterday. I didn't see one person with a mask on. Admittedly, it wasn't that busy. But still. Not one person, other than me. I have a stinking cold, so not inflicting that on others. But it got me thinking, if nobody else is bothering, why should I.
 
I ask this as an open ended question that after 18 months is a very valid one to ask.

Should we (I) be following the exact rules given to me considering the person (s) telling me to follow them isn't following them?

What actual value is in rules if the person who makes them up or any of the fellow people around them don't believe in them?

Before you get all sciencey with it, it's a philosophical question. If the person telling you to do something isn't doing it themselves then how can you trust the instruction to begin with?
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I ask this as an open ended question that after 18 months is a very valid one to ask.

Should we (I) be following the exact rules given to me considering the person (s) telling me to follow them isn't following them?

What actual value is in rules if the person who makes them up or any of the fellow people around them don't believe in them?

Before you get all sciencey with it, it's a philosophical question. If the person telling you to do something isn't doing it themselves then how can you trust the instruction to begin with?

TBF given that lots fascination with language, behaviour management and nudge type issues, it’s not that unlikely that him / them behaving as they have is intended to wreck a united country and a coordinated public health response (both of which they object to anyway).

I mean at the start of this the vast majority of people were willing to work together to get through this, to provide help and to basically be human beings. The idea of personally profiting from it, or cheating the restrictions, was rightly considered to be highly offensive.

If that mood of solidarity had continued it would have ended with those people who did enrich themselves in prison, those who were ineffective removed and those who cheated it made examples of. It’s been in the government’s interest to break that mood, and they have.

Likewise we’ve gone from world class systems to deal with this to it up to you to get tested / isolate / “do the right thing”, all of which is more of what they believe.
 
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