Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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This video explains succinctly why mask mandates don't/won't work and why a lockdown is pointless at this point, as it simply delays the inevitable. COVID is now endemic, meaning cases will always occur regardless of vaccination rates, and behavioural fatigue will make people take risks because they simply want to live their lives, which is understandable.

We just have to accept the reality with this - COVID will continue to kill the vulnerable/elderly like a lot of diseases do, regardless of vaccination, which simply mitigates the risk substantially but doesn't eliminate it. You can't eliminate COVID.


Said this months ago that COVID, IMO, is just gonna be going in peaks and troughs every few weeks and that's what we're seeing all across Europe. People panic and you get all the stories of 100,000 cases a day or whatever, and then suddenly cases drop off. And in a few weeks time it'll come back.

It's hitting that wall of immunity, boosted by the vaccines and subsequently the boosters. It's other illnesses that people are picking up - like the one I've got now - that we're now more susceptible to because we haven't been doing things for 18 months.

I know 100% that if I hadn't gone to London, I'd have been fine. 10 days later and I'm still suffering and I definitely picked up whatever I have down there, and I wore a mask in all the places I was supposed to and in shops etc.
 
I had a virus, which I thought was flu at time, but looking back it didn't feel like the flu I'd had before.

My chest has only now recovered fully... 5 weeks it took.

It's grim. I don't think it's helped that I did have covid back in the summer, and I'm definitely still not over that or the second vaccine dose which knocked my fitness right back down. It's only exercise, but it's been a real struggle for me in the last two months and it was COVID and the second vaccine dose that did it to me. I'd rather be vaccinated than not, obviously.

I was finally feeling better in mid-October and back up to not feeling tired as much (helped by having more free time after a hectic 6-7 months), and then this has wiped me out.

It's not like I feel sick, and now it's coming out in a cold which is probably a good sign. It's just this cough, it's horrendous.
 
I don't think so, as it doesn't really feel like flu. I've had flu before and that was more like when i had covid.

This is the cough that's the worst thing, I just can't shake it, but I'm not feeling sick or fatigued in the same way as when I had COVID, but it's lasted much longer (I was only ill with COVID for like 4-5 days, it's the after-effects that have been more of a pain for me).

I have thought that perhaps given I had COVID that it's made this worse. I don't smoke, but I've been coughing like I've smoked 20 a day for 20 years.

Sister had exact same thing few days back - if it's the same, you need antibiotics buddy, it's a chest infection.
 
Whatever I'm ill with atm - which isn't COVID - is worse than when I had COVID.

Really bad, chesty cough that I've had for 10 days. The last few days I've got a really bad head cold, and just generally feel drained. That's likely because of the cough as it's stopping me from sleeping well.

My symptoms started when I was in London on October 30th and they've got worse if anything.

My lad has had the same thing for over a week and a half now mate. My neighbour and his missus who live directly facing me, are just getting over it now, after five weeks.

As @Tubey says, it`s a nasty chest infection and needs some antibiotics ;)
 
My lad has had the same thing for over a week and a half now mate. My neighbour and his missus who live directly facing me, are just getting over it now, after five weeks.

As @Tubey says, it`s a nasty chest infection and needs some antibiotics ;)

Yep, managed to get through after an hour and getting some antibiotics today. Cheers mate and @Tubey for the advice. They said I might have to go get a PCR (even though I've done 4 LFs and know full well it's not COVID, based on my previous experience) but fortunately they've sent my prescription straight on.

Honestly, giving up on being able to get my fitness back this year now :D just gonna have to work on keeping my weight gain down over the winter and hit it hard in the spring. That's as depressing as anything for me!
 


This video explains succinctly why mask mandates don't/won't work and why a lockdown is pointless at this point, as it simply delays the inevitable. COVID is now endemic, meaning cases will always occur regardless of vaccination rates, and behavioural fatigue will make people take risks because they simply want to live their lives, which is understandable.

We just have to accept the reality with this - COVID will continue to kill the vulnerable/elderly like a lot of diseases do, regardless of vaccination, which simply mitigates the risk substantially but doesn't eliminate it. You can't eliminate COVID.


Not sure that video is very genuinely indicative to be honest, my favorite was some English professor discussing behavioral factors in Ireland.

We've seen a rise from an average of 2k cases a day to peak of 3.800 last week and they dipped yesterday to 3100. Al restrictions were eased three weeks ago (which was stupid in my opinion), clubs etc & with summer - autumn and people moving inside in flu season, i think that rationally explains the increase, its definitely not a surge, we've 500 active Covid in Hospital, 70 odd in ICU and 80% are unvaccinated. I expect Xmas to be mess and subsequently expecting a surge in Jan, but comparatively we're as good or better then anyone in Europe.

We've a few factors that work against us proximity to the UK being one and the free travel area. In that sense because of the UK approach and high instance rate we will always be vulnerable. we also have a very young population and a high case rate between 5-12 year olds unvaccinated.

The breakdown of our infection profile is also interesting, the highest case instances increase here at the moment is from 5-12 year olds - essentially the unvaccinated. yesterday the Government implemented an antigen test programme in schools to mitigate.

Waterford is interesting in the sense, that it has consistently had the lowest rates in the state throughout the pandemic, while other areas were higher, i suspect because of that they dont have the boost of natural immunity post infection other areas might. Its also very picturesque and a big tourism county and shares a land border with four other counties, so there could be a migrating effect now that tourism is back open, that hasn't been there before now. Kerry has exactly the same profile historically and cases have jumped there too - another big tourism destination.

While there is a grain of truth in learning to be with Covid endemically, i wouldn't accept that the elderly and vulnerable will continue to die because of it and we can definitely mitigate with measures to help manage the impact. We've given our boosters, to over 70's are currently doing our over 60's and frontline workers, we've seen an incredible drop in case instances and deaths in these cohorts in the last week and its quite stark when you compare it to 5-12 years olds.

Secondly i also wouldn't accept the downplaying of our mitigation measures, we're still social distancing, mask mandates and have Passes to use hospitality all of these things, they are just sensible things to do to protect, children, older adults and society in general. They arent even an inconvenience. Its about how each coutry wants to deal with the endemic phase of the pandemic, its not all rush toward it with abandon nor is it all lock yourself away.

Anyway dose 3 for me this morning, i may have Pfizer logo on my forehead tomorrow morning.
 
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Not sure that video is very genuinely indicative to be honest, my favorite was some English professor discussing behavioral factors in Ireland.

We've seen a rise from an average of 2k cases a day to peak of 3.800 last week and they dipped yesterday to 3100. Al restrictions were eased three weeks ago (which was stupid in my opinion), clubs etc & with summer - autumn and people moving inside in flu season, i think that rationally explains the increase, its definitely not a surge, we've 500 active Covid in Hospital, 70 odd in ICU and 80% are unvaccinated. I expect Xmas to be mess and subsequently expecting a surge in Jan, but comparatively we're as good or better then anyone in Europe.

We've a few factors that work against us proximity to the UK being one and the free travel area. In that sense because of the UK approach and high instance rate we will always be vulnerable. we also have a very young population and a high case rate between 5-12 year olds unvaccinated.

The breakdown of our infection profile is also interesting, the highest case instances increase here at the moment is from 5-12 year olds - essentially the unvaccinated. yesterday the Government implemented an antigen test programme in schools to mitigate.

Waterford is interesting in the sense, that it has consistently had the lowest rates in the state throughout the pandemic, while other areas were higher, i suspect because of that they dont have the boost of natural immunity post infection other areas might. Its also very picturesque and a big tourism county and shares a land border with four other counties, so there could be a migrating effect now that tourism is back open, that hasn't been there before now. Kerry has exactly the same profile historically and cases have jumped there too - another big tourism destination.

While there is a grain of truth in learning to be with Covid endemically, i wouldn't accept that the elderly and vulnerable will continue to die because of it and we can definitely mitigate with measures to help manage the impact. We've given our boosters, to over 70's are currently doing our over 60's and frontline workers, we've seen an incredible drop in case instances and deaths in these cohorts in the last week and its quite stark when you compare it to 5-12 years olds.

Secondly i also wouldn't accept the downplaying of our mitigation measures, we're still social distancing, mask mandates and have Passes to use hospitality all of these things, they are just sensible things to do to protect, children, older adults and society in general. They arent even an inconvenience. Its about how each coutry wants to deal with the endemic phase of the pandemic, its not all rush toward it with abandon nor is it all lock yourself away.

Anyway dose 3 for me this morning, i may have Pfizer logo on my forehead tomorrow morning.
I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up being a new variant tbh. I'm double jabbed since July and despite going pretty much nowhere other than dropping the kids to school I managed to get covid about 3 weeks ago.

Full reopening will start having an effect around this week and despite PR from the hospitality industry its hit and miss as to whether you get asked for proof of vaccination.
 
I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up being a new variant tbh. I'm double jabbed since July and despite going pretty much nowhere other than dropping the kids to school I managed to get covid about 3 weeks ago.

Full reopening will start having an effect around this week and despite PR from the hospitality industry its hit and miss as to whether you get asked for proof of vaccination.
If I was remotely worried about covid, which at mid 30s I'm not, (if I get unlucky I get unlucky) I wouldn't set foot in a place that accepts only vaccine proof as showing you're safe. As it is, when I go to a gig I don't feel one bit protected. I think it's a false sense of security for people who genuinely need to worry about the virus.
 
I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up being a new variant tbh. I'm double jabbed since July and despite going pretty much nowhere other than dropping the kids to school I managed to get covid about 3 weeks ago.

Full reopening will start having an effect around this week and despite PR from the hospitality industry its hit and miss as to whether you get asked for proof of vaccination.

Hopefully not pal, but another variant in inevitable at some stage. Hope the body is doing ok.

I agree some of the pass implementation has gone lax, we need to get a lot tighter on it, was around in the local GAA club after winning promotion this year and sure everyone was drinking out of the winning cup and passing it around, must have been 200 people drinking out of it - these are the types of things that will lead to clusters, self discipline is key but it is hard with a few jars on especially youngsters, so i think hospitality and providing the safest environment is key, most places just want to start making money again, dont want the hassle of an argument at the door, in some places its just gets unmanageable like in the City Centre. The vast majority to be fair are implementing it and doing well, i think its a few rouge beyond human error. I leave unless im asked for the pass.

Funny that the industry itself wants harder sanctions on those not adhering to the measures.



I think schools is a big driver myself, the government dont want to acknowledge it, but i think much is being seeded their and in and around and being brought home, kids will brush it off in the main, but we will see subsequent breakthrough infections, thats my opinion and case instances are backing it up.
 
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Hopefully not pal, but another variant in inevitable at some stage. Hope the body is doing ok.

I agree some of the pass implementation has gone lax, we need to get a lot tighter on it, was around in the local GAA club after winning promotion this year and sure everyone was drinking out of the cup and passing it around, must have been 200 people drinking out of it - these are the types of things that wil lead to min i clusters, self discipline is key but it is hard with a few jars on especially or youngsters, so i think hospitality and providing the safest environment tis key, most places just want to start making money again, in some places its just get unmanageable like in the City Centre.

I think schools is a big driver myself, the government dont want to acknowledge it, but i think much is being seeded their and in and around and being brought home, kids will brush it off in the main, but we will see subsequent breakthrough infections, thats my opinion and case instances are backing it up.
They're being brought along kicking and screaming about the achools but they've announced antigen testing for primary schools but I've not seen the nuts and bolts of it.

There hasn't been a week since they've been back that vlasses have been full - not all covid of course but everyone other than the FF Enya lookalike admits schools have been a problem.

Thankfully ours moved into a brand new building this year so ventilation is very modern. I'm involved in our local GAA club and there was a huge effort put into keeping the kids covid free but thats been relaxed now with restrictions being eased.

Probably just coincidence but we had a few matches called off in the last 5 or 6 weeks with clubs not being able to field teams due to players missing.
 
They're being brought along kicking and screaming about the achools but they've announced antigen testing for primary schools but I've not seen the nuts and bolts of it.

There hasn't been a week since they've been back that vlasses have been full - not all covid of course but everyone other than the FF Enya lookalike admits schools have been a problem.

Thankfully ours moved into a brand new building this year so ventilation is very modern. I'm involved in our local GAA club and there was a huge effort put into keeping the kids covid free but thats been relaxed now with restrictions being eased.

Probably just coincidence but we had a few matches called off in the last 5 or 6 weeks with clubs not being able to field teams due to players missing.

Ive always felt schools are the main driver mate, when you look at our fluxuations they cocincide with schools opening and closing. I can understand it being a priority keeping schools open, but if you dont acknowledge it as an issue - like the Goverment has done, you cant do anything to mitigate it, the antigen test thing should have been done months ago. To be honest, i think they are terrified of the teachers unions, i wouldn't be fan of them myself mind. They have CO2 monitors in the class rooms to make sure there is appropriate ventilation, but if the monitor is above appropriate ventilation, there is no advice on what to do or steps to take - crazy. There is so much that can be done if we just accept schools are setting that there is a high prevalence in, sure they wont let adults back in the offices fully yet. Schools drive the economy through free child care.

We are slap bang in the middle of club season in the middle of flu season, i think from Club to club ive seen huge variations, my own dont ask for the pass for admittance, you can go to the bar for a pint shoulder deep in the clubhouse and as i say we won promotion last week and the place was heaving, everyone hugging you, everyone pouring their drinks into the cup and sending it around table - table - you know the way it is - bananas. We will see a few GAA related outbreaks, more locally then nationally depending on the club.
 
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