Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Not sure If that's for UK but if it is LL I can let you know it ain't about the roll out being slow as the vaccine has been on offer for a few weeks ( well it has been at my lads school ).

The uptake was really poor in his year (year 8 - age 12/13), around 30 odd out of 125

It’s all the misinformation stuff doing the rounds with the parents mate.
 
It’s all the misinformation stuff doing the rounds with the parents mate.

Aye mate I understand its a tough call. Its been one of them where I know a fair few of my lads mates haven't got it and each lad says the same (parents don't want them to have it). We sat down with my lad, had a long chat about it and he gave us his points of view of why he wanted it so it was important we took on board his reasons for wanting it.
 
Not sure If that's for UK but if it is LL I can let you know it ain't about the roll out being slow as the vaccine has been on offer for a few weeks ( well it has been at my lads school ).

The uptake was really poor in his year (year 8 - age 12/13), around 30 odd out of 125
Unfortunately think it likely a combo of both.

Scotland seems to have done much better than England on rates and the theory I’ve seen is they opened up their usual vaccination centers as well rather just relying on the school teams.

Agree that there seems to be significant demand as well as supply problem though. Know a lot of it is dubious disinformation like those school fliers but don’t think JCVI‘s ambivalence helped either. Seems to be lot of UK parents who are convinced of benefit of the vax in general but not for their kids.
 
Not sure If that's for UK but if it is LL I can let you know it ain't about the roll out being slow as the vaccine has been on offer for a few weeks ( well it has been at my lads school ).

The uptake was really poor in his year (year 8 - age 12/13), around 30 odd out of 125
My daughters the same age year 8 her school was yesterday and today not sure of the uptake. I would guess it’s quite low (I’ve refused to let her get vaccinated) as I don’t believe kids are in any danger or a very very low percentage and there’s more danger to giving her the vaccine as the long term effects are unknown. That may change as time goes by but for now we’ve refused it.
 


A perfect example of clickbait that mate - she said surgical/medical grade masks likely do work but most people wear cheap/dirty masks and often incorrectly with it on their chins etc.

Media love a good bit of £clickbait£

I dont see the harm in face masks tbh I still wear mine but I do worry about the long term harm that does as technically our immune system should be picking up bugs etc to build up natural immunity.

No coincidence that this bug going around wiping people out is 18 months after the population masked up and hidden away from one another imo.
 
A perfect example of clickbait that mate - she said surgical/medical grade masks likely do work but most people wear cheap/dirty masks and often incorrectly with it on their chins etc.

Media love a good bit of £clickbait£

I dont see the harm in face masks tbh I still wear mine but I do worry about the long term harm that does as technically our immune system should be picking up bugs etc to build up natural immunity.

No coincidence that this bug going around wiping people out is 18 months after the population masked up and hidden away from one another imo.
She has a point, half the masks you see people wearing are rotten and not fit for purpose. It’s more of a gesture than effectiveness now. It’s like ‘look am doing the right thing’ whilst it’s hanging under their nose
 

What’s their vaccinated % legs? It’s happening everywhere now surely people need to start questioning the vaccine effectiveness and not just the unvaccinated people but people who are double jabbed, everyone really. This shouldn’t be happening and we know the vaccines aren’t 100% but still?
 
What’s their vaccinated % legs? It’s happening everywhere now surely people need to start questioning the vaccine effectiveness and not just the unvaccinated people but people who are double jabbed, everyone really. This shouldn’t be happening and we know the vaccines aren’t 100% but still?
It is good, in low 80s fully vaxxed.

I kinda lose track of who did what when but Iirc they recently relaxed restrictions snd if so could just be a temp bump. Worth keeping an eye on, especially if filters into hospitalizations.

Edit, bit more digging. Cases seem more in younger age groups and unvaccinated are driving the hospital increase. On surface looks similar to UK July surge around Euros/Freedom day,
 
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My daughters the same age year 8 her school was yesterday and today not sure of the uptake. I would guess it’s quite low (I’ve refused to let her get vaccinated) as I don’t believe kids are in any danger or a very very low percentage and there’s more danger to giving her the vaccine as the long term effects are unknown. That may change as time goes by but for now we’ve refused it.

Yeah I'm not too sure how successful the uptake will be tbh, just going by what my son said and knowing a lot of friends whose kids haven't had it.

Currently my lad hasn't grown a second head or anything so far which is a good sign ;)
 
Hospital figures - 177 deaths were announced today, up 44 on yesterday and up 58 on last Friday. 130 deaths were in English hospitals, up 42 on yesterday and up 61 on last week. The 7 day rolling average rises to 118.29

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 180 deaths were announced today, up 65 on yesterday and up 38 on last Friday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 135.29

There has been no data reported for the 60 day cut off today
 
Aye mate I understand its a tough call. Its been one of them where I know a fair few of my lads mates haven't got it and each lad says the same (parents don't want them to have it). We sat down with my lad, had a long chat about it and he gave us his points of view of why he wanted it so it was important we took on board his reasons for wanting it.

tbf and @COYBL25 there have been some studies showing that there's more of a risk to teenage lads for certain side-effects from the vaccines.

I still don't think it'd be reason to tell your kid not to get it like. Like you've said Mac, you had a proper sit down chat and were able to discuss things. I suppose given your personal experience, that might have swayed him too?
 
I am sure the recent Bay Area case decrease will be extensively studied but it will take time to be published.

However there is data from earlier stages of the epidemic in the US
Mask wearing has been advocated by public health officials as a way to reduce the spread of COVID-19. In the United States, policies on mask wearing have varied from state to state over the course of the pandemic. Even as more and more states encourage or even mandate mask wearing, many citizens still resist the notion. Our research examines mask wearing policy and adherence in association with COVID-19 case rates. We used state-level data on mask wearing policy for the general public and on proportion of residents who stated they always wear masks in public. For all 50 states and the District of Columbia (DC), these data were abstracted by month for April ─ September 2020 to measure their impact on COVID-19 rates in the subsequent month (May ─ October 2020). Monthly COVID-19 case rates (number of cases per capita over two weeks) >200 per 100,000 residents were considered high. Fourteen of the 15 states with no mask wearing policy for the general public through September reported a high COVID-19 rate. Of the 8 states with at least 75% mask adherence, none reported a high COVID-19 rate. States with the lowest levels of mask adherence were most likely to have high COVID-19 rates in the subsequent month, independent of mask policy or demographic factors. Mean COVID-19 rates for states with at least 75% mask adherence in the preceding month was 109.26 per 100,000 compared to 249.99 per 100,000 for those with less adherence. Our analysis suggests high adherence to mask wearing could be a key factor in reducing the spread of COVID-19. This association between high mask adherence and reduced COVID-19 rates should influence policy makers and public health officials to focus on ways to improve mask adherence across the population in order to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.

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