Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[coollino]

the graph pandemic

 

[Bruce Wayne]

A friend of mine works in warehouse in London. Most of the workforce are East European as he calls them.
They don't or won't wear masks and most are very anti vaxers.
He's double jabbed and lives in hope.

Attempts to convince the in-laws to get the flu jab are thus far not proceeding well.

 

[LinekersLegs]

the graph pandemic

Have to say there has been some superb data visualization work by a lot of people during Covid.

 

[coollino]

Have to say there has been some superb data visualization work by a lot of people during Covid.

you must be tired!

 

[Billy Dean]

No it's the opposite of that for me - it's saying there's a bigger picture to think of other than whether from a purely epidemiological point of view mask wearing is effective. It could be 10% more effective at stopping particle spread, but then wearing them leads to people doing 20% more riskier activities.

It was sort of a no-brainer to mandate them early in the pandemic as you wanted to instil a sense of vigilance and awareness in people so as to get the actual desired outcome of social distancing; masks were handy in that respect, a constant reminder. But now, when people generally don't give a toss/are mass vaccinated, it seems a bit less useful to say the least.

To be honest, the best way to reduce the spread now would be to not mandate mask wearing and constantly fearmonger the population into thinking they're going to catch it if they go the corner shop, because no bugger is wearing a mask... which is bizarrely what is actually happening. I don't know if that's by design, but I can't think of a more effective way of doing it at this stage of the pandemic.

In reference to your first para. There’s no evidence that is happening.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Deep within the UK’s shocking Covid data, there may be reasons for optimism

Analysis: soaring cases in schools are adding to the pool of the immune – which could soon see some community infections fall

www.theguardian.com

With so many adults well protected after vaccination, infection, or both, the primary driver for the UK epidemic is the infection rate among schoolchildren. Data from the Office for National Statistics show that cases soared in secondary schools when they reopened after the summer. This was bound to happen: in England at least, protective measures in schools were minimal; the decision to vaccinate healthy children came later than elsewhere, and the process has been difficult and slow.

The ONS estimates that for the week ending 9 October, 8.1% of children in school years 7 to 11 would have tested positive for coronavirus. This equates to about 5% becoming infected every week and adding to the pool of the immune. Before schools went back after the summer, a substantial minority of children in London may have had antibodies to the virus. With natural infections building on that immunity for weeks, cases may soon start to fall. And since schoolchildren are seeding infections into the community, national cases may follow suit.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Deep within the UK’s shocking Covid data, there may be reasons for optimism

Analysis: soaring cases in schools are adding to the pool of the immune – which could soon see some community infections fall

www.theguardian.com

With so many adults well protected after vaccination, infection, or both, the primary driver for the UK epidemic is the infection rate among schoolchildren. Data from the Office for National Statistics show that cases soared in secondary schools when they reopened after the summer. This was bound to happen: in England at least, protective measures in schools were minimal; the decision to vaccinate healthy children came later than elsewhere, and the process has been difficult and slow.

The ONS estimates that for the week ending 9 October, 8.1% of children in school years 7 to 11 would have tested positive for coronavirus. This equates to about 5% becoming infected every week and adding to the pool of the immune. Before schools went back after the summer, a substantial minority of children in London may have had antibodies to the virus. With natural infections building on that immunity for weeks, cases may soon start to fall. And since schoolchildren are seeding infections into the community, national cases may follow suit.

Hopefully this will be right. The level of cases at the moment is crazy considering the high levels of vaccination. I don't think the peak will go above 250 deaths per day 7 day average primarily due to the levels of vaccination but that still will probably cause a lot of problems over the winter.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Hopefully this will be right. The level of cases at the moment is crazy considering the high levels of vaccination. I don't think the peak will go above 250 deaths per day 7 day average primarily due to the levels of vaccination but that still will probably cause a lot of problems over the winter.

San Francisco is most vaccinated US city (residents over 12 with at least one dose iirc ~80%) weather was mild and not a lot of wildfire smoke forcing people inside. Case rate in August still almost went up to winter peak - Delta is bloody effective.

COVID-19 cases and deaths | San Francisco

COVID-19 cases and deaths in San Francisco, including new cases and cumulative totals.

sf.gov

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

Whole thread is interesting but think this last bit in particular is sensible advice

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

Nice data visualization of the current transmission from kids to their parents/grandparents.

 

[maccavennie]

Nice data visualization of the current transmission from kids to their parents/grandparents.

Not sure If that's for UK but if it is LL I can let you know it ain't about the roll out being slow as the vaccine has been on offer for a few weeks ( well it has been at my lads school ).

The uptake was really poor in his year (year 8 - age 12/13), around 30 odd out of 125