Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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tbf, there's plenty of people in hospitality (working) who still wear masks in the places I've been going to recently - coffee shops/restaurants, as in whoever is managing them must be making them mandatory for staff.

But they really aren't the biggest factor. They do help mind but I'm not gonna wear a mask in a gig which is going to be the most packed space I've been in since March 2020.

I still wear my mask to go to the shops/anything medical, of course.
 
Seems to be a lot of cases in schools ( my 8 year old niece has just tested positive ), a couple of friends in my sons class (aged 13) have tested positive and quite a few in the year group 2 years above him have tested positive. That's just a small sample, but if that was happening a lot everywhere else l, that would certainly be a lot of cases covered by children/teenagers wouldn't it.
My daughters class had 8 out of 30 off with it...
 
Guardian reporting increasimg noises being made about moving to 'plan B' to head off a winter crisis by senior NHS figures and scientists. I.e. mask wearing, recommending WFH etc. Govt ignoring so far. Probably unsurprisingly.

Not a massive deal asking folk to wear masks, really don't think being reluctant is sensible. The only possible reason is because the Govt. know its not popular and want to be all a about 'freedom'.
Sounds like this will happen but it will be enforced too late again. No lessons learned.
 
Guardian reporting increasimg noises being made about moving to 'plan B' to head off a winter crisis by senior NHS figures and scientists. I.e. mask wearing, recommending WFH etc. Govt ignoring so far. Probably unsurprisingly.

Not a massive deal asking folk to wear masks, really don't think being reluctant is sensible. The only possible reason is because the Govt. know its not popular and want to be all a about 'freedom'.

Reckons it's gone passed 'plan b' now. A lot of companies I know are still WFH.

I reckon 10% more would wear masks now if mandatory.

Closing hospitality or any form of lockdown will be a disaster for the Tories and probably not listened to when indoor mixing between households etc.

They've gambled, messed up and now completely stuck but will also get away with it, whatever happens.
 
@DrEFC knew that adult males had much worse outcomes typically than females but wouldn’t have guessed it might extend to fetuses is this small data set holds true on larger testing.
In two studies published Tuesday in Science Translational Medicine, the Boston-based research teams found that pregnant and lactating women mount robust antibody responses to both vaccination and infection. The encouraging data also came with some twists that offer intriguing new clues to one of the pandemic’s enduring mysteries: why Covid-19 hits male adults, children, and infants harder than females.

“What’s striking here is that the mothers who are carrying male babies have much lower levels of antibodies to the coronavirus,” said Akiko Iwasaki, a virologist and immunologist at Yale University who was not involved in the study. “What’s interesting about that is it means that the sex of the baby can dictate how the mother responds to a viral infection.”

Since the earliest days of the pandemic, epidemiological studies have pointed to sex differences in Covid-19 patients; males get more severely ill and die more often than females. For the past year and a half, scientists like Iwasaki have been trying to tease out why that is. Last August, her team published a study showing that men and women mount very different immune responses. Males’ defenses tend to have a slow ramp-up, but then produce more pro-inflammatory molecules, which can lead to a dangerous over-reaction known as a “cytokine storm.”

In one of the new studies, the Boston researchers examined maternal blood, cord blood, and the placentas from 38 pregnant Covid patients. The placenta is the life support system for a fetus, providing oxygen and nutrients; it grows from the developing embryo’s cells, not the mother’s. The researchers found that in response to Covid infection, male placentas switched on more pro-inflammatory immune activation genes than placentas supporting female fetuses.

This increased immune activation might help male fetuses stave off SARS-CoV-2, but the resulting inflammation could also pose risks, said Andrea Edlow, a maternal fetal medicine doctor at Mass General and assistant professor of obstetrics, gynecology, and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School, who co-led the new studies.

“What the downstream effects are going to be for the child we still don’t know,” said Edlow. “But it’s definitely going to be important to follow up the development of these children on the basis of sex because we see these really profound changes in the placenta that suggest that the intrauterine environment is suddenly altered even in the setting of mild maternal disease.”

What seems more clear, and surprising, is how those changes feed back into what the mother’s immune system is doing. Covid-infected patients produced fewer antibodies if their fetus was male. And they also transferred far fewer of these protective antibodies to the developing male babies.
 
The media really are loving this now. All they talked about on GMB today was the need to go to plan B.

I mean it's not illegal to wear a mask or social distance is it?

Obviously most of the country have now decided that 50,000 cases a day and 200 deaths is acceptable to them
 
The media really are loving this now. All they talked about on GMB today was the need to go to plan B.

I mean it's not illegal to wear a mask or social distance is it?

Obviously most of the country have now decided that 50,000 cases a day and 200 deaths is acceptable to them

I'm totally tired of hearing people shout about needing more restrictions. It's been almost 2 years, most of us are vaccinated. The media need to tone it down.

I don't think I could cope with another winter lockdown. Christmas till about March this year was horrendous.
 
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