Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Hospital figures - 6 deaths were announced today, down 6 on yesterday and down 12 on last Wednesday. All 6 deaths were in English hospitals, down 6 on yesterday and down 12 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 7.43

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 6 deaths were announced today, down 7 on yesterday and down 6 on last Wednesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 9.43

For the 60 day cut off, 19 deaths were announced today, down 7 on yesterday and the exact same total as last Wednesday. The 7 day rolling average remains the same at 18.43
 
You say you are sick of lockdown but then talk about freedom for non vaccinated and non maskers, but its them that are causing the lockdown, if we get another its 100% their fault.

Main thing is we need that 21st date pushed back, it was crazy stupid to even announce it when they did. They should of just said we will make an assessment weekly, and decided next week, to give that date a while back was crazy
there's no reason to lockdown at all. the ones at fault for locking down are the ones enforcing it. the virus does what it wants, locking down has little effect other than to continue to depress lives.

see here:

 
there's no reason to lockdown at all. the ones at fault for locking down are the ones enforcing it. the virus does what it wants, locking down has little effect other than to continue to depress lives.

see here:



What you’ve said does not match what that article actually says.

Did you read it ?
 
What you’ve said does not match what that article actually says.

Did you read it ?
yes. i read the original german report.

what issue do you have?

infections were already on the way down: locking down during such a downward trend wasn't proven to accelerate that trend.
 


Facts ^

Should open up 21st. To be honest should have completely opened up by now - just a mad overabundance of caution.

Will people still die? Yes, but in their 10s at most, not 100s. We have to tolerate that as the lockdowns are killings/harming many, many, many more than that.

Yet you've got other 'experts' saying that we should in fact roll back the 'freedoms we're enjoying', as well as that silly div Cathy Newman claiming she doesn't like to be the bearer of bad news.

(Apologies for any offence caused to silly divs, or Cathy Newman)
 
It comes and goes in waves like any other illness.

Obviously lockdown will have helped at the peaks and will help if you go harsh quick even for small cases - like Aus - but it is just a completely ridiculous thing to do at this stage (like in Aus, it's mad).

You bite the bullet, get a grip, and carry on the vaccination process with boosters when needed in the winter.
 
yes. i read the original german report.

what issue do you have?

infections were already on the way down: locking down during such a downward trend wasn't proven to accelerate that trend.

Nowhere does that article state there is no reason to lockdown or that lockdowns have little effect.

A lockdown is simply a series of usually legally enforced restrictions on human interaction. By definition they work, because we know without doubt that Covid spreads more when people interact and mix more.

That article is suggesting that it’s likely Germans were already taking measures themselves to restrict social contact without a government mandated lockdown. That is not the same as what you’re saying. The authors explicitly say they’re not saying what you are saying.

Based on the past 18 months you’d have to be pretty daft to think lockdowns in the UK for example didn’t work or had “little impact”.
 
Nowhere does that article state there is no reason to lockdown or that lockdowns have little effect.

A lockdown is simply a series of usually legally enforced restrictions on human interaction. By definition they work, because we know without doubt that Covid spreads more when people interact and mix more.

That article is suggesting that it’s likely Germans were already taking measures themselves to restrict social contact without a government mandated lockdown. That is not the same as what you’re saying. The authors explicitly say they’re not saying what you are saying.

Based on the past 18 months you’d have to be pretty daft to think lockdowns in the UK for example didn’t work or had “little impact”.
It is the same as what I am saying. The authors merely distanced themselves from making political statements.

I am not saying lockdowns in the last 18 months were all useless. I am saying locking down now has little effect other than further depressing folk. Backed up by that study, which says that locking down recently has not proven to have had an effect on already-downward trends (i.e. the virus doing its thing).

Let's get everything back to normal now. the summer is a great opportunity for it, to lift people up again. For those worried, you may continue social-distancing, locking-down, wearing masks etc.

By the time autumn comes with its typical flu/cold season, most adults will have presumably been vaccinated against Covid, thereby hugely reducing the chances of an Autumn hospital-wave (which would threaten more lockdowns).


There comes a point when we have to turn society back on. As our model we may look to certain States in USA like Texas & Florida, who have turned back on quite successfully, even with cancelling mask mandates and the like.
 
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