Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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spectateur said:
There is also an indeterminate and varying time lag between diagnosis and death.
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Think what we can say though is that if younger - generally healthier in the sense that they're young! - end up in hospital, they are far less likely to die from this than people in vulnerable or elderly groups.

And those groups are all but fully vaccinated now in the UK. I guess they are in most of Europe now too?
 
Germany are a few months removed from that massive second wave they had, so death numbers will be higher as people don't catch COVID and immediately drop dead.

Also, our vaccine rates are so much higher that even if we had a 'third wave' with similar numbers to European countries a few months back, our death figures would be a fraction of what happened over there.

In around a month or so from now, you'll see a small climb in deaths because more people are catching COVID now. It's to be expected. But you're talking 10 people instead of 5 now, really small numbers.
 
BlueToff said:
I mean I don't wear a mask outside mate, I see no reason to. I haven't been to anywhere particularly crowded other than when I went into Leeds the other night, sat outside and it was busy but I didn't have to wear a mask unless I went in for the toilet or whatever. And I don't 'enjoy' walking around a shop at the best of times so I don't mind wearing a mask in that sense. If it means that we can go and got to gigs and matches and stuff without having to do so down the line, then I'm fine with it.

I just can't see how all these places that are now totally set up for online stuff are going to change anyway. It just is how it is.

I think they'll knock it back too, but just fed up of all the fearmongering and honestly, I'm past caring if people get it now. Sounds harsh I know, but honestly, do we all go around fearing people getting ill from anything else? Do we hell. And we have a lot more protection against this now than we do against most other illnesses.

I'm still being sensible but other than not being able to go to events - which keep getting canned for no good reason - my life is back to normal now, or 'normal' like it will be from now on with constant WFH etc. Back going to the gym, haven't actually sat inside a pub or bar yet but I've not had loads of free time and when I have been out, the weather's been nice so I don't wanna be sat inside.

EDIT: Will say actually, when I went out last Friday, I did for the first time struggle in the mask. Like I wore it in the taxi, in the station, then on the train, so all in all about 50 mins total straight, and I felt awful, like struggled to breathe, really light headed, clammy.

I don't know why, because not had issues before but I've not really had to wear a mask for that long since about last September, so maybe it was just that and the weather. I get quite bad hayfever and it doesn't effect my eyes or give me a cold as much anymore, but it does give me some breathing difficulties. I've noticed it on the bike, really quite tight chested, and it was the same last year. Maybe it's that.
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The first weekend in July last year, after the first big lockdown, me and my mate stayed in a couple of pubs, in a remote part of the Western Lake District, for a weekend of fell walking. Everywhere we went, the staff where twitchy and rightly so, as we`d been locked down for the best part of 14 weeks. Other than when you sat outside in a beer garden or a cafe, you couldn`t relax, as you were so on edge inside, due to the staff being so paranoid about the rules.

Fast forward eleven months and I`ve just been to the exact same part of the Lakes with the family.

It`s actually worse there now, than it was eleven months ago, as the introduction of table service only, has meant reduced numbers inside, which has made the staff even more twitchy, as they`re were having to constantly turn people away at the door, who are looking for something to eat and drink, which meant a bottleneck at the entrance to a couple of places, creating the ultimate sin of a small group of people gathering for a short period of time. Also woe betide anyone who forgets to put a mask on inside !!!

Things are still a long way off being normal, no matter how they try to dress it up.

The mantra of " protect the NHS and the vulnerable " seems to have completely gone out of the window and the goal posts completely moved to an obsessional counting of infections, regardless of deaths and hospital admissions and spinning the infection rate as the new Armageddon.

The reality is, that at the moment, we`re no better off than we were around this time last year.

I`m not even going to start on the travel situation, where the new pariahs are the " reckless, selfish " people that endanger us all by going abroad !!!!!
 
COYBL25 said:
The first weekend in July last year, after the first big lockdown, me and my mate stayed in a couple of pubs, in a remote part of the Western Lake District, for a weekend of fell walking. Everywhere we went, the staff where twitchy and rightly so, as we`d been locked down for the best part of 14 weeks. Other than when you sat outside in a beer garden or a cafe, you couldn`t relax, as you were so on edge inside, due to the staff being so paranoid about the rules.

Fast forward eleven months and I`ve just been to the exact same part of the Lakes with the family.

It`s actually worse there now, than it was eleven months ago, as the introduction of table service only, has meant reduced numbers inside, which has made the staff even more twitchy, as they`re were having to constantly turn people away at the door, who are looking for something to eat and drink, which meant a bottleneck at the entrance to a couple of places, creating the ultimate sin of a small group of people gathering for a short period of time. Also woe betide anyone who forgets to put a mask on inside !!!

Things are still a long way off being normal, no matter how they try to dress it up.

The mantra of " protect the NHS and the vulnerable " seems to have completely gone out of the window and the goal posts completely moved to an obsessional counting of infections, regardless of deaths and hospital admissions and spinning the infection rate as the new Armageddon.

The reality is, that at the moment, we`re no better off than we were around this time last year.

I`m not even going to start on the travel situation, where the new pariahs are the " reckless, selfish " people that endanger us all by going abroad !!!!!
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Agree that from a day to day point of view that its similar to last summer. Arguably the restrictions are worse as each individual gets asked to scan in. I got asked to scan a bar code for an ice cream van the other week in the lakes which confused me.

I would suggest that the average person is less worried than last summer but SAGE/independant SAGE and the media are keen to keep the anxiety levels high.

The narrative from the media at the moment is a disgrace, we're averaging about 9 deaths a day thats probably below 1% of daily deaths.
 
grandjoeblue said:
Agree that from a day to day point of view that its similar to last summer. Arguably the restrictions are worse as each individual gets asked to scan in. I got asked to scan a bar code for an ice cream van the other week in the lakes which confused me.

I would suggest that the average person is less worried than last summer but SAGE/independant SAGE and the media are keen to keep the anxiety levels high.

The narrative from the media at the moment is a disgrace, we're averaging about 9 deaths a day thats probably below 1% of daily deaths.
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I forgot about track and trace too.

You had to do it at a mobile tea wagon there too.

I just laughed and told the fella it was alright, I`d do with out.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Wouldn't mind doing the antibody tests either. Would that include blood samples though? Not that that bothers me.
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I`ve done it mate, that`s how I found out how I had it.

Order it on online and it come through the post.

The only tricky bit, is getting it back to them in time, as if you don`t the blood " spoils " and they can`t get a result ( happened with my first one )
 


Facts ^

Should open up 21st. To be honest should have completely opened up by now - just a mad overabundance of caution.

Will people still die? Yes, but in their 10s at most, not 100s. We have to tolerate that as the lockdowns are killings/harming many, many, many more than that.
 
COYBL25 said:
I forgot about track and trace too.

You had to do it at a mobile tea wagon there too.

I just laughed and told the fella it was alright, I`d do with out.
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Signing in to places when you're sitting outside miles away from other people doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I wouldn't be pleased isolating for 10 days because someone 100m away in a pub garden had covid. Having to isolate for 10 days when you've had 2 doses of vaccine is also a joke.
 
Tubey said:


Facts ^

Should open up 21st. To be honest should have completely opened up by now - just a mad overabundance of caution.

Will people still die? Yes, but in their 10s at most, not 100s. We have to tolerate that as the lockdowns are killings/harming many, many, many more than that.
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It is amazing how widespread that Twitter account has gotten, and how uncritically it is cited btw.
 
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