Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Interesting take on herd immunity and the future if the pandemic, it relates to Ireland and I’d pull apart some of the data, but some logical discussion points there in terms of end of the pandemic and how things may pan out later in the year.

 
Tramps_mate said:
18-64 is quite a big group tbf.. Plus the younger aren't vaccinated and they are the ones out socialising mainly! Theres nothing surprising in those figures..
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To agree and add to this - the people who are ending up in hospital with it now are much less likely to die from it.

The more people get vaccinated, the less people end up in hospital. Still some over 50s not yet received their second dose.

People get ill, it's life. The whole point of vaccinating elderly and vulnerable groups first was to ensure that those people would be much less likely to die if they got it.

But every government now likes their bit of control and is also scared to be the ones to take the first steps.

What Aus government are doing is bordering on totalitarianism.

Sick of it.
 
BlueToff said:
To agree and add to this - the people who are ending up in hospital with it now are much less likely to die from it.

The more people get vaccinated, the less people end up in hospital. Still some over 50s not yet received their second dose.

People get ill, it's life. The whole point of vaccinating elderly and vulnerable groups first was to ensure that those people would be much less likely to die if they got it.

But every government now likes their bit of control and is also scared to be the ones to take the first steps.

What Aus government are doing is bordering on totalitarianism.

Sick of it.
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Glad to hear you and others speaking out. It's not all fun stats-sharing and watching shedloads of Netflix. People's lives are being destroyed, and not by the virus, but by the government's reaction to the virus.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
We received a letter from the ONS this morning asking if we wanted our household to participate in the weekly covid infection survey. After initially saying she couldn't be arsed with the hassle, she realised that each person who participates receives £50 worth of grocery shopping vouchers for the first test, and £25 for any subsequent tests. So she's registered lol
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I've been doing it for a year, just extended it to Include antibody tests.

It's no hassle at all
 
The year is 2030, the world has moved on and covid-19 is long past, but in the UK, Pagel and the other Scientists for Hire continue to caution against restrictions ending in case a new variant emerges. Just a few more months they say. Meanwhile the UK population has dwindled to just a few million due to non-covid related deaths whilst those who remain are having to make do with rats for some nourishment.
 
dholliday said:
Glad to hear you and others speaking out. It's not all fun stats-sharing and watching shedloads of Netflix. People's lives are being destroyed, and not by the virus, but by the government's reaction to the virus.
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Media-driven as well now mate and not just our government.

The 'roadmap' seems to have been a success. If June 21st gets pushed back so be it, but it shouldn't really have to be - there's no evidence for it to be.

I don't see why they can't plan to do what they did in terms of opening on june 21st, but have stuff like mask wearing in shops or on transport etc still in place. People are used to it now, they'll do it, nobody is expecting in 2 weeks' time to be able to go into ASDA and not wear a mask I don't think, we accept that the world has changed.

As for other governments, well they're now being as bad if not worse.

There has to be a time where we bite the bullet.
 
BlueToff said:
Media-driven as well now mate and not just our government.

The 'roadmap' seems to have been a success. If June 21st gets pushed back so be it, but it shouldn't really have to be - there's no evidence for it to be.

I don't see why they can't plan to do what they did in terms of opening on june 21st, but have stuff like mask wearing in shops or on transport etc still in place. People are used to it now, they'll do it, nobody is expecting in 2 weeks' time to be able to go into ASDA and not wear a mask I don't think, we accept that the world has changed.

As for other governments, well they're now being as bad if not worse.

There has to be a time where we bite the bullet.
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Thats where I disagree tbh mate - Freedom Day is what it should say on the tin - the freedom to choose if you want to wear a mask or not etc.

I think its all or nothing for me otherwise they'll never stop making us wear them.

I dont mind in winter wearing them but its too much in summer walking around places you cant enjoy the day!

I just hope they knock this June date back a few weeks until say mid-end July and hopefully cases drop as more people are getting vaccinated and we can get on with our lives.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Thats where I disagree tbh mate - Freedom Day is what it should say on the tin - the freedom to choose if you want to wear a mask or not etc.

I think its all or nothing for me otherwise they'll never stop making us wear them.

I dont mind in winter wearing them but its too much in summer walking around places you cant enjoy the day!

I just hope they knock this June date back a few weeks until say mid-end July and hopefully cases drop as more people are getting vaccinated and we can get on with our lives.
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I mean I don't wear a mask outside mate, I see no reason to. I haven't been to anywhere particularly crowded other than when I went into Leeds the other night, sat outside and it was busy but I didn't have to wear a mask unless I went in for the toilet or whatever. And I don't 'enjoy' walking around a shop at the best of times so I don't mind wearing a mask in that sense. If it means that we can go and got to gigs and matches and stuff without having to do so down the line, then I'm fine with it.

I just can't see how all these places that are now totally set up for online stuff are going to change anyway. It just is how it is.

I think they'll knock it back too, but just fed up of all the fearmongering and honestly, I'm past caring if people get it now. Sounds harsh I know, but honestly, do we all go around fearing people getting ill from anything else? Do we hell. And we have a lot more protection against this now than we do against most other illnesses.

I'm still being sensible but other than not being able to go to events - which keep getting canned for no good reason - my life is back to normal now, or 'normal' like it will be from now on with constant WFH etc. Back going to the gym, haven't actually sat inside a pub or bar yet but I've not had loads of free time and when I have been out, the weather's been nice so I don't wanna be sat inside.

EDIT: Will say actually, when I went out last Friday, I did for the first time struggle in the mask. Like I wore it in the taxi, in the station, then on the train, so all in all about 50 mins total straight, and I felt awful, like struggled to breathe, really light headed, clammy.

I don't know why, because not had issues before but I've not really had to wear a mask for that long since about last September, so maybe it was just that and the weather. I get quite bad hayfever and it doesn't effect my eyes or give me a cold as much anymore, but it does give me some breathing difficulties. I've noticed it on the bike, really quite tight chested, and it was the same last year. Maybe it's that.
 
BlueToff said:
I mean I don't wear a mask outside mate, I see no reason to. I haven't been to anywhere particularly crowded other than when I went into Leeds the other night, sat outside and it was busy but I didn't have to wear a mask unless I went in for the toilet or whatever. And I don't 'enjoy' walking around a shop at the best of times so I don't mind wearing a mask in that sense. If it means that we can go and got to gigs and matches and stuff without having to do so down the line, then I'm fine with it.

I just can't see how all these places that are now totally set up for online stuff are going to change anyway. It just is how it is.

I think they'll knock it back too, but just fed up of all the fearmongering and honestly, I'm past caring if people get it now. Sounds harsh I know, but honestly, do we all go around fearing people getting ill from anything else? Do we hell. And we have a lot more protection against this now than we do against most other illnesses.

I'm still being sensible but other than not being able to go to events - which keep getting canned for no good reason - my life is back to normal now, or 'normal' like it will be from now on with constant WFH etc. Back going to the gym, haven't actually sat inside a pub or bar yet but I've not had loads of free time and when I have been out, the weather's been nice so I don't wanna be sat inside.

EDIT: Will say actually, when I went out last Friday, I did for the first time struggle in the mask. Like I wore it in the taxi, in the station, then on the train, so all in all about 50 mins total straight, and I felt awful, like struggled to breathe, really light headed, clammy.

I don't know why, because not had issues before but I've not really had to wear a mask for that long since about last September, so maybe it was just that and the weather. I get quite bad hayfever and it doesn't effect my eyes or give me a cold as much anymore, but it does give me some breathing difficulties. I've noticed it on the bike, really quite tight chested, and it was the same last year. Maybe it's that.
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Had this Indian Variant not rocked up that June date would have been sound you feel but it is what it is and realistically we need the over 40's to be double dosed in order for us to get on with things you feel.

The positive is if its knocked back to July first doses given 12 weeks back from April were on the slide so in theory they should be giving out more second doses on a daily basis to speed up the process likewise in August as think only 100-250k first doses were given on average in those April-May monthe compared to 350k+ a day in the months prior to April.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Had this Indian Variant not rocked up that June date would have been sound you feel but it is what it is and realistically we need the over 40's to be double dosed in order for us to get on with things you feel.

The positive is if its knocked back to July first doses given 12 weeks back from April were on the slide so in theory they should be giving out more second doses on a daily basis to speed up the process likewise in August as think only 100-250k first doses were given on average in those April-May monthe compared to 350k+ a day in the months prior to April.
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Yeah can't complain about the vaccination process. I checked on the off chance just now and have booked in my first jab for June 27th, then second for September 12th
 
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