Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Paris]

I don't know why but I feel more frustrated by a two week lockdown than I do a monthly lockdown. Of course, the two weeks will be constantly reviewed but how can people/businesses actually make plans without a definitive date?

 

[gav1985]

Being totally honest I would not want to be treated by somebody refusing the vaccine. They can believe what they want but I don't want to have somebody risking my health.

 

[dholliday]

Being totally honest I would not want to be treated by somebody refusing the vaccine. They can believe what they want but I don't want to have somebody risking my health.

What if you've already been vaccinated yourself?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What if you've already been vaccinated yourself?

I'd quite like medical staff to know and support science rather than conspiracies.

 

[dholliday]

I'd quite like medical staff to know and support science rather than conspiracies.

the science is ongoing. That's what science is. The subject matter is too new, too fresh, to really be certain of anything yet, scientifically-speaking.

The signs are good, however, that the vaccine appears to be mostly harmless (at least in the short-term) and does reduce harmful cases of Covid-19.

 

[gav1985]

What if you've already been vaccinated yourself?

I've had both vaccines. Only issue is that I have a reduced immune system so not sure how affective they will be as yet. I don't want to catch it anyway. It's never gong to be 100% affective as well so the other person having it reduces the risk of transmission.

People can make their own choices here but they need to be prepared to face any consequences that they may face because of that. People seem to keep needing to be reminded that when you make choices like not wearing a mask or not having the vaccine it doesn't just affect you.

 

[Walken]

But it's not forcing people to. It's saying that if you want to do a job that places you at a high risk of either catching or transmitting the virus, then you need to have the vaccine. I'm colour blind and you wouldn't want me flying a plane or fixing your plug. The problem is we have this utter madness that the vaccine is harmful to you. It's not, and medical professionals more than anyone should know that.

My job requires travel and lots of mixing with folk, I have had to have a vaccine book as a matter of company record or to be available for new employers, this has been the case since I started abut a decade ago and in that time I have been heavily involved in one of the worlds more effectve unions. As far as I know it has never been a point of contention and seems to be an imaginary issue in terms of basic rights with not wanting the corona vaccine that fits the playbook of the usual 'freedom of speech' groups

 

[Barnfred 55]

We received a letter from the ONS this morning asking if we wanted our household to participate in the weekly covid infection survey. After initially saying she couldn't be arsed with the hassle, she realised that each person who participates receives £50 worth of grocery shopping vouchers for the first test, and £25 for any subsequent tests. So she's registered lol

 

[dholliday]

I've had both vaccines. Only issue is that I have a reduced immune system so not sure how affective they will be as yet. I don't want to catch it anyway. It's never gong to be 100% affective as well so the other person having it reduces the risk of transmission.

People can make their own choices here but they need to be prepared to face any consequences that they may face because of that. People seem to keep needing to be reminded that when you make choices like not wearing a mask or not having the vaccine it doesn't just affect you.

We don't know that yet, scientifically-speaking. Studies are ongoing.

Also not wearing a mask will not affect the other person who is wearing one. The one at risk is the one not wearing the mask.

While pre-covid, mask-wearing was seen as protecting others (if one had flu or whatnot), this was because the others didn't wear masks as a general rule themselves.

There is an argument that the non-mask wear risks transmitting the disease even to mask-wearers, due to possible transmission into the eye, or via surface-droplets. But there is no evidence that these are any significant numbers. Surface transmission appears to be very rare, and if eye-transmission was a concern, we'd long have eye-protection guidance.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Going to be interesting to see how many vaccinated passengers don’t sign up given the risks of being stuck offshore unable to dock because of an outbreak among the unvaccinated passengers.

Cruising in the US is a lot different to cruising in Britain. I've been to the Caribbean quite a few times and the American boats have a real mix of clientele. All mix of ages and lots of young groups of lads and girls. But the UK is still very much dominated by the older generation and I know for a fact that most of these would stop cruising if there wasn't a strict vaccine regime in place.

I guess it's probably different in the US where there are different attitudes to the vaccination programme and a lot more younger groups involved. But they'll soon change their tune when ports stop accepting them as you say.

As I said, allowing unvaccinated passengers on board a cruise liner is utter madness.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You don't have to have a vaccine...

 

[ste d' indica]

You don't have to have a vaccine...

On the one hand, we shouldn't be condoning violence... on the other hand... SPARKED! lol

 

[dholliday]

You don't have to have a vaccine...

So much poisonous hate these days. That Twitter account sharing a bloke getting knocked out with "Nice one!" is called Marie-Ann Hates Tories and Brexit

And the comments beneath that video just celebrating this without even knowing any context.

That's where society is now.

Sad.

 

[gav1985]

We don't know that yet, scientifically-speaking. Studies are ongoing.

Also not wearing a mask will not affect the other person who is wearing one. The one at risk is the one not wearing the mask.

While pre-covid, mask-wearing was seen as protecting others (if one had flu or whatnot), this was because the others didn't wear masks as a general rule themselves.

There is an argument that the non-mask wear risks transmitting the disease even to mask-wearers, due to possible transmission into the eye, or via surface-droplets. But there is no evidence that these are any significant numbers. Surface transmission appears to be very rare, and if eye-transmission was a concern, we'd long have eye-protection guidance.

It is widely believed and accepted that masks help reduce the spread. Wearing one won't stop you getting it.

I suppose the bottom line is that people can make their own choices but if shops etc won't let you in because you don't wear one then you have to accept that as well. Same goes for the vaccine.

 

[dholliday]

It is widely believed and accepted that masks help reduce the spread. Wearing one won't stop you getting it.

I suppose the bottom line is that people can make their own choices but if shops etc won't let you in because you don't wear one then you have to accept that as well. Same goes for the vaccine.

That is counter to current WHO/CDC-guidance, who recommend wearing masks (in combination with distancing etc) to help prevent one getting the virus. And as you state to help prevent the spread. If a non-mask wearer has Covid, and he is spreading the virus, it stands to reason it will be those within near-distance and not wearing masks who will be most at risk of catching something nasty (unless they're vaccinated).

Where did you hear that masks won't stop you getting it?

Dr Fauci did say something similar back in March 2020, but he debunked himself later on. Maybe you're remembering that?