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Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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The point is that staff are expected to do things to keep patients safe. Not having a vaccine puts patients at risk. If a surgeon had a personal aversion to washing their hands, would you say "sure, that's alright, on you go Jack"
Mrk
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Surely they would? Vaccines reduce transmission.
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Vaccination massively reduces your likelihood of catching covid. If the majority are vaccinated it barely spreads. Theres a small chance of catching covid if you're vaccinated but its low.
Well surely the point of wearing PPE is to ensure that transmission is significantly reduced (each way)?
I just think there's a big difference between medical professionals having to do something and the general public.
If I was a policeman, I'd expect to be put through my paces physically etc, more than I would if I just worked in an office job. Comes with the territory.
Look, i think everyone should get the vaccine, but i don't think you can force people to, ultimately
Does it? I thought it just massively reduced the likelihood of hospitalisation?
Indications are it stops you getting it for quite a few people
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grandjoeblue
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Theres a good CDC article on it somewhere. Basically it reduces the chance of you passing it on to someone else who is vaccinated by quite a large percentage. It suggested that the majority of transmission is none vaccinated people. Apparently vaccinated people can catch it but rarely pass it on. If the majority are vaccinated transmission will be much lower than what we are seeing at the moment.
They have 62.7% of their population with some form of vaccine. 59% are fully vaccinated, give or take.
They have also had the Indian varient, but maybe a stronger second dose vaccination base.
We have 76.8% of the adult population with a first vaccine - So are the young people causing the difference in case numbers?
You're really asking that?
Mostly with the U.K. hopspitalisation figures, there is a high rate of unvaccinated, that may be young people or people for whatever reason didn’t get vaccinated, poverty, hesitancy, language etc, about 75-80%.
Then one dose offers some protection so about 15-20% have had one dose and in hospital, then 5% fully vaccinated - which is what you would expect given the efficacy of the vaccines.
We’re keeping a close eye on the U.K. hospital data, next week or two will tell a lot as to how the vaccines are standing up to virus. But it’s looking hopeful, with the increase in cases in the last week or so, early doors mind.
I often find the adult population figure everyone reports for vaccinations a bit misleading, huge populations under 18, generally the biggest cohorts in most of societies so there aren’t really 76.8% of the population partially vaccinated, just people over 18.
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But it's not forcing people to. It's saying that if you want to do a job that places you at a high risk of either catching or transmitting the virus, then you need to have the vaccine. I'm colour blind and you wouldn't want me flying a plane or fixing your plug. The problem is we have this utter madness that the vaccine is harmful to you. It's not, and medical professionals more than anyone should know that.
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