Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

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I used to love the Banana Splits.

 

[bigjonny]

I used to love the Banana Splits.

I bet you were heartbroken when Bingo got the Liverpool job.

 

[peteblue]

It will be interesting to see if the 'EU' go at the clotting issues with the same vigour as they have AZ.

You are of course joking. It could kill one in three and the EU would say nothing....

 

[Chewbacca]

New Hair
New Me ♡

Can’t believe toupee shops were considered non-essential.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

*prays for @BlueStevie35

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He'll be loving it - gang of feral Tuebrook Cougars with no face masks ripping his shirt buttons loose "eh luv wheres the bikini aisle???"

 

[Tin-Tin]

When Thanos gets to India

 

[mrb85]

I see you have taken one bit of my comment which was a hypothetical but not responded to the rest. But I will humour you. My mum is having her second jab on Wednesday and my dad a week after. My dad lives abroad and so has only recently had his first jab.

But that is all beside the point. I was talking about vaccine hesitancy which is a real danger. I would like you to respond to the other points I made, but maybe don't copy and paste from conspiracy theory websites and quote someone like John Ioannides who is a complete quack

There's a 'complete quack' then at the head of the Departments of Medicine, Epidemiology, Data Science and others at one of the most prestigious universities in the USA. Wow, how's he getting away with that?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Early evidence of COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness within the general population of California

Importance Evidence is needed to determine COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness under real-world conditions of use. Objective To determine the effectiveness of authorized vaccines against COVID-19 in the context of substantial circulation of SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern, and identify vaccine uptake...

www.medrxiv.org

We measured vaccine effectiveness via the matched odds ratio of prior vaccination, comparing cases with controls. Results: Among 325 cases, 23 (7%) and 13 (4%) received BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; 8 (2%) were fully vaccinated with either product. Among 260 controls, 49 (19%) and 49 (19%) received BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; 42 (16%) were fully vaccinated with either product.

Among fully vaccinated individuals, vaccine effectiveness was 86% (95% confidence interval: 67-94%). Vaccine effectiveness was 66% (-69% to 93%) and 78% (23% to 94%) one week following a first and second dose, respectively. Among unvaccinated participants, 39% of those residing in rural regions and 23% of those residing in urban regions reported hesitancy to receive COVID-19 vaccines, when eligible. In contrast, vaccine hesitancy did not significantly differ by age, sex, household income, or race/ethnicity.

Conclusions and Relevance: Ongoing vaccination efforts are preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection in the general population in California. Vaccine hesitancy presents a barrier to reaching coverage levels needed for herd immunity.

 

[mrb85]

Just in case anyone gets hoodwinked by @mrb85 and his rubbish here is an article showing that the "eminent epidemiologist" he quotes is someone you shouldn't listen to.

JetBlue’s Founder Helped Fund A Stanford Study That Said The Coronavirus Wasn’t That Deadly

A Stanford whistleblower complaint alleges that the controversial John Ioannidis study failed to disclose important financial ties and ignored scientists’ concerns that their antibody test was inaccurate.

www.buzzfeednews.com

Is this the best you can come up with?

When I started looking at the article I was expecting to read that Ioannidis must have trousered at least a six-figure sum from a private company. After all, here is a wealthy, highly regarded, top epidemiologist of worldwide eminence, running a University based investigation into a most important issue, an issue that was being reacted to with government policies that were possibly going to destroy the lives of millions around the world if proved inappropriate. You can imagine my surprise, and my ensuing laughter, to find that the sum donated was $5,000.

The article (from May 2020) notes that the university would be looking into the matter. Perhaps you can update us on its findings. Actually I'll save you the trouble - it found no evidence that the study was, at any stage, influenced by any financial donations.

 

[DanEFC92]

Deeply sick country

 

[Terrarian]

Deeply sick country

Starting to think people in this country are as thick as pig dung

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Neiler]

Ireland is going to restrict AZ to over 60s later.

 

[LinekersLegs]

“the researchers examined around 400 members of Clalit Health who tested positive for the virus 14 days or more after receiving the first dose of the vaccine in comparison to 400 unvaccinated people who caught corona, too. The cohorts were matched according to age, sector, gender and more.

The study showed that the South African variant is more likely to break through the vaccine’s protective effect, even after two doses have been administered and more than a week has passed.”

They did mate, they are rolling with the three week intervals. They have a deal with Pfizer that supply won’t drop off until 95% of their population is vaccinated.

So being reading a bit more of this study from the scientist involved.



I know I am flogging a dead horse here but I really wish there had been a control arm (even if only a small one, say 25% of doses) that had stuck to the 3 week Pfizer schedule to compare the infection rate of the B1117 variant in the partially vaccinated.

 

[maccavennie]

Ireland is going to restrict AZ to over 60s later.

I can't keep up who it's been offered to the overs, the unders, the highs, the lows, the young, the old, the living, the dead, the living dead, alien's, dogs, cats, people wearing caps, non cap wearers