Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Neiler]

Does it really matter how we got there anymore?

The strategy, a gamble, paid off, and we've vaccinated (fully) a lot of people and a lot of people have got their first doses.

This is good

They took the decision, seemingly for a few reasons: as explained by Whitty initially, the idea was that it was better to have more people with the a fair chunk of protection (initially thought to be around 70-80% but actually turned out to be nearer 90%) sooner, than less people as much protection as possible. In turn, that was clearly so that we could, in theory, open up again sooner and as such stop the strain of lockdowns on society, the economy etc, while simultaneously saving lives.

France not quite going for 12 weeks, but now pushing four to six between doses following the U.K. logic.

France extends gap between Covid-19 vaccine shots

France will lengthen the period between the first and second shots of Covid-19 vaccines to six weeks from four weeks as of 14 April to accelerate the inoculation campaign, the country's health minister has said.

www.rte.ie

 

[peteblue]

Chinese government considers mixing COVID-19 vaccines for boost amid low efficacy

China’s top disease control official says the government is considering mixing COVID-19 vaccines to give them a boost as their effectiveness showed to be

english.alarabiya.net

Winnie certainly won't like that admission.

“Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu”....

I’d be staying away from any high level windows...but it does explain why Chile, which mostly uses China’s CoronaVac, is still having growing case numbers despite world beating vaccination figures....

 

[Paris]

“Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu”....

I’d be staying away from any high level windows...but it does explain why Chile, which mostly uses China’s CoronaVac, is still having growing case numbers despite world beating vaccination figures....

Yeah, sadly Gao Fu died on the way back to his home planet.

 

[LinekersLegs]

France not quite going for 12 weeks, but now pushing four to six between doses following the U.K. logic.

France extends gap between Covid-19 vaccine shots

France will lengthen the period between the first and second shots of Covid-19 vaccines to six weeks from four weeks as of 14 April to accelerate the inoculation campaign, the country's health minister has said.

www.rte.ie

Iirc the original Pfizer trial had some participants getting their second doses as late as 41 days so 42 days is probably something the company itself would have been reasonably supportive of originally.

 

[peteblue]

“Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu”....

I’d be staying away from any high level windows...but it does explain why Chile, which mostly uses China’s CoronaVac, is still having growing case numbers despite world beating vaccination figures....

Beijing has created a new system for citizens to immediately inform the government of anyone who “denies the excellence of the Chinese advanced socialist culture”...The great bunch of lads certainly know how to maintain control of their people......

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[tsubaki]

“Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu”....

I’d be staying away from any high level windows...but it does explain why Chile, which mostly uses China’s CoronaVac, is still having growing case numbers despite world beating vaccination figures....

TBF if you believe the official figures (4850 deaths in the PRC from the entire pandemic) then it might explain why the vaccines don't have very high protection rates; who'd know if it worked or not when the worst week they've had this past year was 22 dead?

 

[peteblue]

TBF if you believe the official figures (4850 deaths in the PRC from the entire pandemic) then it might explain why the vaccines don't have very high protection rates; who'd know if it worked or not when the worst week they've had this past year was 22 dead?

How anyone would believe anything that came out of China is beyond me.....

 

[tsubaki]

How anyone would believe anything that came out of China is beyond me.....

certainly out of the government

 

[LinekersLegs]

While you are still doing your maths to prove a point about how many would have been fully protected, I.e double dosed, have you given any thought to the millions who at this point would no longer have any protection yet be in ‘vulnerable groups’ or the lives Thousands may have lost by following your strict double dose proposal. The U.K. have played this very well, getting jabs into the arms of as many people as possible to provide a reasonable degree of protection and it seems to be paying off. This lesson will be incredibly useful as vaccines are rolled out around the world......the argument has taken place, a U.K. decision has been made, the rollout is providing protection and other countries will adopt the same strategy as a result....

Very much doubt the US will unless there is actual quantifiable clinical data to back it up.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[davids]

I can only go by the experience of family. My son and daughter-in-law, both front line workers,him rough for three days,her raised temp and sore arm for twelve hours. My ex wife low level headache and sore arm twenty four hours,her partner... nothing.
We aren't clones so everyone will react differently.

 

[Neiler]

How is everyone feeling about tomorrow in the U.K.?

Will you be going to the pub, Bite to eat or hitting the shops - or will you be a bit more cautious?

 

[Goat]

How is everyone feeling about tomorrow in the U.K.?

Will you be going to the pub, Bite to eat or hitting the shops - or will you be a bit more cautious?

@davek is coming to ours for a BBQ and a few tinnies.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Strictly Come Vaccing........

Vaccers on Ice

Celebrity Vax Island

 

[toffee82]

By all accounts intense and single-minded, Dr. Kariko lives for “the bench” — the spot in the lab where she works. She cares little for fame. “The bench is there, the science is good,” she shrugged in a recent interview. “Who cares?”

What a great attitude. A massive distinction to the show offs involved in Oxford who have become media celebrities.

The Oumar Niasse of the medical world.