Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Billy Dean]

I think many are still not distinguishing between general "blood clots" and the particular type mentioned here.

 

[jinkyali]

I think it's a daft decision to suspend it. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be investigated, like, but surely there'd need to be a lot more evidence.

There's also a load of people under 30 who have already had the first jab of AZ - like @Connor.

Doesn't really matter for me, I won't be getting whatever jab I'm getting for at least another 2 months, but just seems a bit mad.

An individual who developed Moderna said if you haven't had the reaction from jab number 1, you won't from jab 2.

 

[jinkyali]

It does. This will destroy vaccine confidence in all age groups, people won't go for second doses, the overall program will be slower and a resurgence of the virus will happen.

It's a disaster.

Only person panicking is you here.

 

[peteblue]

I know they have, which completely undermines their point.

"We're going to stop it for everyone under 30, because we think that there's this tiny chance you could develop blood clots. Unless you're under 30 and have had the first jab, in which case, take the risk."

It's nuts, Pete.

I think they said the evidence so far is only after the first jab, while the number of second jabs is much lower the advice is have the second....

 

[BlueToff]

An individual who developed Moderna said if you haven't had the reaction from jab number 1, you won't from jab 2.

Okay

 

[Zezti]

79 reports of blood clots out of 20 million doses given.
People need to remember that.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It's hilarious how when they're delivering bad news they pack all the union flags safely away.

 

[Tubey]

Only person panicking is you here.

Bollocks, watch the numbers plummet - conveniently at the same time as a supply shortage of course.

How very convenient.

 

[peteblue]

They don’t even know if this rare clotting was actually caused by Covid just prior to having the jab....

 

[BlueToff]

With respect to vaccine confidence in the youngsters...

You have seen the mass gatherings etc
They want lives back to normal asap

If vaccination equals holiday to ibiza or football then they won't give a hoot about this.

The under 30s live day to day and deal in data more than any other demographic.

This won't concern them at all.

Yeah this is generally my point. I don't think confidence in my age group will be significantly hit by this; there'll be some, obviously.

The main people who will probably be wondering WTF is going on is the early 30s. It's such an arbitrary cut off, like in Germany/France with the over 65s.

 

[peteblue]

It's hilarious how when they're delivering bad news they pack all the union flags safely away.

Yep, should have had a few Eu or French ones in view.....it was a medical news report....

 

[jinkyali]

Yeah this is generally my point. I don't think confidence in my age group will be significantly hit by this; there'll be some, obviously.

The main people who will probably be wondering WTF is going on is the early 30s. It's such an arbitrary cut off, like in Germany/France with the over 65s.

I'm 35.
Im due my second AZ on Friday.

 

[peteblue]

79 reports of blood clots out of 20 million doses given.
People need to remember that.

And 19 deaths....

 

[peteblue]

I'm 35.
Im due my second AZ on Friday.

You are fine.....

 

[tsubaki]

Today is a disaster for the world's response to this virus and, in my view, completely unnecessary.

I have no problem with clots being listed as a rare side effect, but to limit the use of the AZ vaccine in a certain age group means confidence in it will plummet now.

TBF I couldn’t disagree more with this - if there’s a problem that exists, potentially exists or is perceived to exist with anything as important as this, you’ve got to acknowledge it and be seen to deal with it seriously.

Otherwise, saying “it’s fine, only a tiny fraction of cases etc etc” only works for as long as the relatives of those tiny fraction of cases aren’t in the papers every week saying it was a life cut short, vaccine to blame and so on - everyone loses confidence once that happens, and in the campaign as a whole too because you’ve seemed to tell fibs.