Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[jinkyali]

Bollocks, watch the numbers plummet - conveniently at the same time as a supply shortage of course.

How very convenient.

Well with a supply shortage the numbers plummet anyway.

 

[jinkyali]

You are fine.....

Oh aye know.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Can see that argument but as an under 30 myself my chances of dying of Covid is very low also.

I would still take AZ myself like but I think its understandable by the authorities whilst they investigate further.

More than likely it will change again before we get to that age group its changing of messages all the time with the vaccines certainly with the EU.

The problem, in my opinion , is that they didn't need to make this announcement yet mate. We know there is a link but we don't know what that link is yet. The vast majority of cases are in women and a lot of those are over 30. So why all under 30s, and why announce it now when the majority of under 30s won't be getting vaccinated for another couple of months at least. They've only been looking at these cases for about a month. Another couple of months would enable the scientists to drill down more accurately and hopefully come up with a specific grouping based on proper data, rather than pick out a whole demographic.

They have undermined the confidence in the vaccine now when previously it was high. Do you not think older people in their 30s and 40s will not start to question it, and what about all the under 30s health and care workers who have already had their first jab?

It's a mess and there was absolutely no need.

 

[peteblue]

At least the BBC are trying to put a sensible interpretation on this....

 

[Mrk]

Bollocks, watch the numbers plummet - conveniently at the same time as a supply shortage of course.

How very convenient.

You’re typically one of the few people speaking sense but you’ve completely lost the plot here.

Will this impact confidence? Undoubtably. Are they overreacting? Almost definitely. Are they conspiring to cover up supply shortages for a private company? Obviously bloody not.

 

[jinkyali]

The media really need to be careful that's the only thing I will say.
I thought the conference was fine and that there wasn't much new info.

 

[Tubey]

Well with a supply shortage the numbers plummet anyway.

You’re typically one of the few people speaking sense but you’ve completely lost the plot here.

Will this impact confidence? Undoubtably. Are they overreacting? Almost definitely. Are they conspiring to cover up supply shortages for a private company? Obviously bloody not.

Politically it's very convenient for a vaccine to be unavailable to an upcoming age group cohort as it gives a reason for the slowdown in the prorgram overall.

It's also convenient politically to throw the EU a bone.

 

[peteblue]

Government saying it will not affect the timetable.....

 

[jinkyali]

Politically it's very convenient for a vaccine to be unavailable to an upcoming age group cohort as it gives a reason for the slowdown in the prorgram overall.

It's also convenient politically to throw the EU a bone.

What benefit would that be for anyone?

 

[Barnfred 55]

I broadly agree with you, but we need to make a clear distinction here - this isn’t a government decision. The idea that Johnson would want to implant any doubt in people’s minds over AZ is ludicrous. Like it or not, this is a result of having an independent regulatory agency.

I don't disagree.

I'm not really a political animal mate, which is why I'm usually referred to as a Tory. When I talk of government I don't just mean the politicians. The MHRA is part of our Government network.

 

[Tubey]

What benefit would that be for anyone?

I've just said. It's a wonderful excuse for the halting of the vaccine program due to lack of supply in a few months, and it's politically expedient to be onside with the European approach to the AZ vaccine now we have low stock.

It's all deeply cynical IMO. I'm disgusted. Playing politics with lives.

The idea this is an independent decision is as laughable as claiming the EU weren't doing the same.

 

[Blueclouds]

I think they said the evidence so far is only after the first jab, while the number of second jabs is much lower the advice is have the second....

Is this true?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Bollocks, watch the numbers plummet - conveniently at the same time as a supply shortage of course.

How very convenient.

A lot will takeaway a headline of if you're under 30, or even in your 30s, don't bother getting any vaccine.

That's how I interpret it anyway - when they're saying the risk of serious covid complications is less than the risk of vaccine causing a blood clot.

You have to wonder if there's a different motivation behind it. Timing seems coincidental to me.

 

[jinkyali]

Can someone enlighten me as to why the government would want to supposedly delay our roll out?
I'm confused as to why that's a narrative here.

 

[Mrk]

Politically it's very convenient for a vaccine to be unavailable to an upcoming age group cohort as it gives a reason for the slowdown in the prorgram overall.

It's also convenient politically to throw the EU a bone.

Sorry but this is just utter nonsense. It was literally the government who announced that we faced supply shortages several weeks ago. So, why would the MHRA conspire to give an excuse for the government to use, when it was literally the bloody government who warned about a potential slowdown?

I love a good conspiracy, but come on...