Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Why do people find it so hard to accept that for younger people who are at very minimal individual risk from this virus there is no need to rush ahead with a certain vaccine- especially when others are available.

Yes “only” 19 people have died- but when these people are being killed by something which was a) supposed to protect them and b) they’re being vaccinated for the benefit of others, something has to be investigated. The option for the AZ jab will even still be there, but there is literally no issue when their are several other jabs already available.

We were going to open up society more and more before these cohorts were even vaccinated with a first dose so again, there’s just no issue here.
 
Today is a disaster for the world's response to this virus and, in my view, completely unnecessary.

I have no problem with clots being listed as a rare side effect, but to limit the use of the AZ vaccine in a certain age group means confidence in it will plummet now.

Can see that argument but as an under 30 myself my chances of dying of Covid is very low also.

I would still take AZ myself like but I think its understandable by the authorities whilst they investigate further.

More than likely it will change again before we get to that age group its changing of messages all the time with the vaccines certainly with the EU.
 
Can see that argument but as an under 30 myself my chances of dying of Covid is very low also.

I would still take AZ myself like but I think its understandable by the authorities whilst they investigate further.

More than likely it will change again before we get to that age group its changing of messages all the time with the vaccines certainly with the EU.

It doesn't matter now, the confidence in it for all age groups will be shot.

For nothing. There's been clotting incidents in Pfizer/Moderna shots too, completely ignored.
 
It doesn't matter now, the confidence in it for all age groups will be shot.

For nothing. There's been clotting incidents in Pfizer/Moderna shots too, completely ignored.
Are they being ignored or simply less frequent than with AZ? Genuine question. Personall I agree with those above that if the risk of suffering with Covid is lower than dying from the vaccine then it makes sense to pause it, or make it conditional on a consultation with a doctor before proceeding. People have compared it to the contraceptive pill but it's necessary to consult a doctor and get a prescription before taking it.
 
Not as much, because they haven't had the same problems in anything like the same volume.

At least 37 people have developed a rare platelet disorder after receiving the Pfizer or Moderna shot; 56-year-old Florida obstetrician Gregory Michael died three days after receiving the Pfizer product.

AAPS states that a cause-and-effect relationship may be impossible to prove, as such diseases occur spontaneously. Health officials note that some 31 million people have received at least one dose, so these events are very rare. They might, however, be just the tip of an iceberg, AAPS warns. According to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), there were 309 cases of thrombocytopenia (low platelets) reported as of Mar 26. AAPS states that people should watch for bruising, rashes, nosebleeds, or bleeding from gums.


Yet completely ignored. You think they aren't in the same volume because they aren't publicised.
 
I agree that the investigation has to go on to clarify exactly what is happening and why.

Once we have a number of different vaccines available, I believe we should identify those most at risk (women of a certain age) of this rare clotting and provide them with a different vaccine. But until this time, we need to continue with the vaccine roll out as planned, because the risk of suffering this rare clotting is heavily outweighed by the risks associated with covid. All those considered higher risk can be educated on symptoms of the clotting and maybe even provided with blood thinning medication for a few weeks to try and pre-empt it.

I believe those countries that have already suspended it's use are actually endangering more lives through covid.
I think the age group determines that. If you're in your 20s or even 30s you'd stand little chance of dying from Covid19. Under those circumstances people will want to swerve the AZ jab. Yes, I know that even these age groups stand more chance of dying from covid19 than a cerebral embolism from a vaccine, but the perception around AZ now - that it is flawed - is too great to ignore by that age group.
 
Are they being ignored or simply less frequent than with AZ? Genuine question. Personall I agree with those above that if the risk of suffering with Covid is lower than dying from the vaccine then it makes sense to pause it, or make it conditional on a consultation with a doctor before proceeding. People have compared it to the contraceptive pill but it's necessary to consult a doctor and get a prescription before taking it.

It isn't. Nowhere near. COVID itself causes thrombosis thousands upon thousands of times more often in all age groups than the vaccine allegedly does.
 
That's the very definition of cherry picking figures. ICU in 16 weeks as an arbitrary figure, against 'serious harms' - that's a nonsense.

A political face-saving exercise to diminish the AZ vaccine.
In fairness, that's the slide for low exposure risk - the slide for high exposure was much more weighted in favour of the AZ vaccine.
 
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