Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Terrarian
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The clue is in the word rare mate, you won't find medication on earth that doesn't come with health warnings and side effects for certain people.Chairman of the EMA stating that there is a clear link between the AZ vaccine and rare blood clotting in the brain.
"In my opinion we can now say it, it is clear that there is an association with the vaccine. However, we still do not know what causes this reaction," Marco Cavaleri, chair of the vaccine evaluation team at the EMA, told Italian daily Il Messaggero when asked about the possible relation between the AstraZeneca shot and cases of brain blood clots.
Cavaleri added that the EMA would say there is a link although the regulator would not likely be in a position this week to give an indication regarding the age of individuals to whom the AstraZeneca shot should be given.
Clear link between AZ vaccine and rare blood clots in brain, EMA official tells paper
There is a link between AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine and very rare blood clots in the brain but the possible causes are still unknown, a senior official for the European Medicines Agency (EMA) said ...uk.news.yahoo.com
Next Monday, yep.
But we won't see any impact from that in terms of case rates/hospitalisations etc until the end of April (26th onwards probably).
Barnfred 55
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Ha ha Dave. Sophistry?. Definition, "the use of clever but false arguments, with the intention to deceive"
Well I can't be that clever because I had to look up what it meant. lol . And what have I said that is false?. Everything I said is in the SAGE minutes Dave. And I mean the full SAGE minutes, not just those that support your arguments. Yes Ferguson came up with the half million stats on 27th Feb. It was then that lockdown became an inevitability. They were then relying on Ferguson and his team to tell us when was best to lock down, and they couldn't have cocked it up more if they tried. 10th March, we're still 4-6 weeks behind Italy. 16h March. Oops sorry. By which stage it was already too late and we were firefighting.
I'm not trying to cover up any of the scumbag's crimes Dave. All I've said is that he followed the science in Feb/March and got it wrong, and he didn't follow the science in Aug/Sept and got it wrong again. How can that be covering anything up FFS. And ALL the evidence is there in the SAGE minutes to back me up.
As regards Dave King, you do know he was CMO during Blair's reign don't you. I'm surprised you're giving him the time of day. Plus he's possibly the biggest biggot I've ever come across in my life. He's the only panelist I've ever seen threatened with being thrown off the program on Question Time because he was interrupting and shouting over everybody, including the audience. Totally odious man. And most of the members of Independent SAGE are in there because they have been overlooked for the real SAGE. Our academia is full of brilliant but self entitled arseholes, who become bitter and twisted when their expertise is overlooked for something as big as this covid pandemic. I know who I'd rather listen to.
Vaccines dried up or Bank Holiday dead cat bounce?
Next Monday and I’m expecting pure gold from Dave on that day lol
Barnfred 55
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I get what you mean. It was a difficult place for them really because everybody was clammering for a road map out of this, complete with dates, and this was led principally by our wonderful media. There would have been hell to pay if he hadn't, including from all sides of parliament.
Having said that, I don't think anybody expected the 21 June date for cessation of all restrictions, and I still think he got that wrong. The earliest date should have been end of July when everybody is expected to have been vaccinated by.
Even if that date goes ahead, I don't think it will be normality as we remember. For large gatherings/functions there'll be requirements such as certificates of test/vaccine, there'll be huge amounts of testing going on, and a lot of social venues like restaurants will still keep some social distancing restrictions in place until they know that it's safe. A lot of people will continue to wear masks voluntarily.
Barnfred 55
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Dave. They will do various model based on different "R" rates, and the one your quoting (not sure what the source is but it is irresponsible reporting IMO) is undoubtedly the worse case scenario.
Given that the vaccine reduces hospital admissions by 80%, there would need to be at least 4 times the number of infection cases to lead to this. So you're talking 250,000 a day. I just can't see this happening.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
davek
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Would you like a chocolate biscuit and a cup of tea to go with that request, sir?
He's spelled it out for you. It's dangerous gnat's piss if you're under 30.
davek
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No contradiction in that. The link is established; we dont know why it's happening, but it is.
It's like saying a car starts making a noise when travelling over 50 MPH on a regular baisis, but I cant say yet what it is because we haven't made a lot of checks on similar vehicles having the same problem to come up with a conclusive declaration.
They do mate, hence the way the 5 a day is pushed everywhere.
davek
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I wish they'd make it available to me.
davek
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...but if it causes cerebral embolisms they dont just keep on stocking on the shelves, do they?
toffee82
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If you're offering.
And according to the article,
"Cavaleri provided no evidence to support his comment."
he did not.
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