Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

Indeed. It was complacency. I think the belief was that these serious pandemics were a result of hygiene issues in the past, squalid conditions and so on.

Even I made that mistake tbh with COVID - I thought initially it'd be largely contained regional to Asia as other epidemics had been despite the scares.

Clearly nothing was in place to react, not just in the UK but literally everywhere except a few Asian countries.

And those Asian countries based it on their experience of SARS, and let’s face it in certain nations, they’re a lot more, er, ‘disciplined’ in their ways (to put it lightly).

Germany did relatively well earlier in the pandemic but as we’ve seen since, it’s been a bit of a mess.

Aus and NZ out of all the countries handled it the best; but they were helped out by the fact they could both just go into hermit kingdoms (to use your phrase), while one of them is literally a continent with a just over a third of the population of the UK, and the other is 2200km from anywhere - and they’re still going to have to take steps out of that at some stage

 

[blulouie]

In the U.S. 22 states where restrictions have been lifted (usually 'red' states) infections are on the rise again - by 30% in some cases.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Over here right now with only minor lifting of restrictions:

"Covid-19 infection rates are still on the rise in 141 places in England, with more than a third of local authority areas reporting increases, new data reveals.

In the week up to March 24, the infection rate went up in 45% of the council areas in England and stayed level in six areas.

In the other 168 areas (54% of the 314 local authority districts in England) the infection rate went down, according to the latest data from Public Health England (PHE).

Revealed: The areas England where infection rates are on the rise

Covid-19 infection rates have stayed level in six areas and gone down in 168

www.inyourarea.co.uk

99 neighbourhoods in Liverpool now have vitually no Covid.

I'd say thats pretty good.

In your fave rag David.

 

[peteblue]

U.K. vaccines....495K given yesterday....total first vaccinations 30,905,538.....total second vaccinations 4,108,536 .... giving an overall total of 35,014,074.....

 

[grandjoeblue]

We’ll see a rise in cases because of yesterday and today, no doubt about it.

1000s of people in the parks in cities. Even in small groups, even outdoors, there will have been spread. There were too many people too close together.

the test of it is, when the cases do spike, what the realistic threshold to push stuff back is - which is what is up for debate. Some (we know who) will say it should be low, some will say it should be high.

We (as in, the general public) don’t make that decision. We have to hope whatever decision is ultimately made is the right one (not holding out for that but, what else can we do)

Happened loads last summer and people made the same comment probably on 30+ occasions and there was no real spike. Hospitalisations are what will push the reopening back. A few students testing positive won't really make a difference.

 

[Tipp blue]

The U.K. had already started one before all this....

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That's exactly what is needed, and a few more around the world.

 

[blulouie]

European Medical Agency

" No evidence to restrict Astra Zeneca vaccine "

Its in all the major rags.

 

[COYBL25]

Any truth in the rumours that we’re all going to die again, because families are having picnics on the beach ?

 

[BlueToff]

Happened loads last summer and people made the same comment probably on 30+ occasions and there was no real spike. Hospitalisations are what will push the reopening back. A few students testing positive won't really make a difference.

Yeah well that’s the thing, I’m hopeful that, with the vaccine roll out continuing at the pace it is, a rise in cases won’t mean a rise in hospitalisations

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

European Medical Agency

" No evidence to restrict Astra Zeneca vaccine "

Its in all the major rags.

The only conclusion that can be drawn from the fact that Germany is restricting the use of AZ is that Germany is a free and sovereign nation that can do as it chooses just like any other EU member.

 

[Barnfred 55]

That's exactly what is needed, and a few more around the world.

What's needed is World co operation

 

[Tipp blue]

What's needed is World co operation

This too.. there should be no profit to be made from a pandemic, all research should be shared and the best minds in the world work together and get it sorted quickly.

 

[TommyDavo]

Any truth in the rumours that we’re all going to die again, because families are having picnics on the beach ?

just glad I got the Pfizer, walked in and it said Commies and socialists need not apply. Just stuck a pic of Johnsons mug over the Everton on me rosette...

 

[blulouie]

The only conclusion that can be drawn from the fact that Germany is restricting the use of AZ is that Germany is a free and sovereign nation that can do as it chooses just like any other EU member.

And your point is ?

 

[PhilM]

Any truth in the rumours that we’re all going to die again, because families are having picnics on the beach ?

It's fine if you're old and civilised with a picnic and your £3 bottle of civilised Aldi wine. It's wrong if you're below thirty and drinking continental lager.

Or is that the consensus?

 

[roydo]

This too.. there should be no profit to be made from a pandemic, all research should be shared and the best minds in the world work together and get it sorted quickly.

They do, and have been for ever. It was fascinating reading about their world, that until a few months ago none of us gave a second thought to.

The reason why the rogue Chinese scientist sent the coding stuff to folk in the west was because he, or she, knew the importance of getting the info to us, whilst the CCP wanted it supressed. Once they had that data, to them, starting work on a vaccine was a normal day at work, other than having literally unlimited funding to help.