Cant remember to be honest, when i read it last night i had read the Norwegian study before, but the German seemed a new one on me - unless i had and forgot.
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Cant remember to be honest, when i read it last night i had read the Norwegian study before, but the German seemed a new one on me - unless i had and forgot.
grandjoeblue
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In the U.S. 22 states where restrictions have been lifted (usually 'red' states) infections are on the rise again - by 30% in some cases.
Forewarned is forearmed.
Over here right now with only minor lifting of restrictions:
"Covid-19 infection rates are still on the rise in 141 places in England, with more than a third of local authority areas reporting increases, new data reveals.
In the week up to March 24, the infection rate went up in 45% of the council areas in England and stayed level in six areas.
In the other 168 areas (54% of the 314 local authority districts in England) the infection rate went down, according to the latest data from Public Health England (PHE).
Revealed: The areas England where infection rates are on the rise
Covid-19 infection rates have stayed level in six areas and gone down in 168www.inyourarea.co.uk
Numbers across the UK are collapsing so your article is picking nonsense statistics. Loads of states in USA have reopened and are successfully managing.
It looks like your dream of a permanently locked down society is becoming very unlikely Dave.
Edit: wonder why they picked the week up to 24th March for the article... schools reopened and we tested double the amount of people.
davek
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What does it matter if he linked it before? Is it inconvenient?
davek
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Lol.
A/ it's not my article, I linked to it.
B/ it's "nonsensical" because it shows 141 places in England with rising levels of Covid19...even before we see resttrictions being lifted in any substantial way?
Dear me.
grandjoeblue
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Look at the statistics, week on week its dropping nationwide. Thats a simple fact that you can see from a quick Google search.
davek
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They've plateaued. Which means in some areas they decline, in others they rise. Roughly equally according to the article linked.
NOT a great time to be lifting restrictions and encouraging more contact.
tsubaki
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This decline is during a lockdown though - case numbers are going to go up when restrictions are lifted; even Johnson admits that is a likely possibility.
What is important to know is what we are going to do in terms of control measures when restrictions are lifted; it seems that the trace bit of test and trace has been binned off (at least in its current form).
This will leave us with a choice between either lockdowns or doing nothing because the most vulnerable are now protected against current and likely mutations as options, neither of which are particularly attractive policy options.
davek
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1% of those arriving in the country are being quarantined. I think it's safe to say they have abandoned suppression and are running with some numb nuts belief that having half the UK population partially vacinated will stop another deadly surge in autumn/winter. It wont. They know this, but they get support from people desperate to get out and mix again.
It is THE most cynical and irresponsible government this country has ever had. It should be toppled.
tsubaki
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TBF the vast majority of people arriving in the country are required to quarantine, it’s the nature of it that varies.
grandjoeblue
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Deaths of over 70s have dropped by over 98%. The vaccines are clearly doing something. Covid cases barely matter. Only hospitalisation and deaths really are key statistics.
tsubaki
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It does matter though - the more prevalent it is, the greater the rate of mutation and the greater likelihood of (current) vaccine resistant versions emerging.
We’ve got to get away from this idea of letting it spread; otherwise we might find ourselves in a while with hospitalisation (and death) rates spiking again. We do not need lockdowns to stop spread, just effective vigilance.
Barnfred 55
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No worries. It's just that the article is 10 days old and I remember reading it, or something very similar, and it's usually your good self who links these informative heath related articles. I also tend to remember the article came with comments from the poster along the lines that at least it can be identified and treated. again the sort of thing that you would say.
Anyway, let's hope it's true. If so it's an extremely rare side effect that, now we know about it, is both identifiable and treatable.
And can I just add that I wasn't having a go at you when asking whether you had posted it before. I genuinely didn't know if it was the same article I had seen before or just a similar one. These articles from medical journals are always informative and you provide a great service to this forum by posting so many. Just in case you didn't realise, this last bit was aimed at you Dave.
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Barnfred 55
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I thought I'd rather respond to the organ grinder than his monkey Dave.
NilSatisOptimum
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If the cap fits its very apt. Suppose lemmings!
ForeverBlue92
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Smallpox is the only virus humans have ever eradicated completely. With something as contagious as Covid you'll destroy the economy/society trying to eradicate it fully imo.
Its going to be here for a long time until it either runs out of steam or mutates to one of the other Coronavirus strains and be just mild in nature regardless of vaccines.
Even if the vaccine prevents many transmissions until the world is fully vaccinated there is little you can do as an individual country other than banning entries and exits out of the country.
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