Can you leave me your ‘likes’ if you do pass away?had my AZ jab on Saturday (I’m 35). Will keep you updated on if I die or not.
You've been on here for thirteen years, and you've only realised the underpinning forum rule of GOT - the public vs. Dave; ying vs. yang; sense vs. farcical.This thread reminds me of the GOT forum vs DaveK on Martinez
or vs Davek on Brands
or vs Davek on Moshiri
I may be going crazy here but it seems to me as if there is a majority consensus on here, then there is a high chance Dave will disagree with it.
Perhaps Dave provides balance to the force.
Yes. And now he's saying they wont be as effective.
These people know the only way to get on top of the virus is to operate like societies in the East do and get the population onside to accept a draconian track and trace system.
These vaccines are crude first generation jabs that will help but wont stop the virus killing lots of people.
Wake up and recognise that. It's now what you're being told as the likes of Whitty, Vallance and Van Tam begin to level with people on the cusp of restrictions being lifted.
There is a change of message here and you best heed it.

"He's a puppet, but now he is saying what I agree with so lets listen to him".He's a puppet, but the message he's giving now is the real deal. Gone is the BS claims about what vaccines will do; now we get the limitiations of them hammered home.
I see people are going outside and taking pictures of other people outside and moaning that other people are outside again.
It’s been a year and this nonsense is still happening.
We dont need lockdowns. We need a different lifestyle whereby intense targetted intervention into a person's life when infected is tolerated for the greater good (ie, track and trace which forcibly compels quarantining that person and his contacts). That's what happens in countries that have all but eliminated the virus as a major existential threat.But then any time we open up, the virus will still be there, mutating, so we'll just come into a world that we can't handle because of the new variants, and it's back in the house/cell we go.
There's no perfect way out of this - we all know that. But, and this has been my point all along, you have to open up at some point. At some stage, every single country has to take that first step, and second step, and third and so on and so on. The vaccines allow that.
Yes, there'll be variants. The vaccination gives a base level of protection on top of the immune system (which as the vast majority of people who have contracted this virus have shown, does a pretty blood job of doing what it needs to and that's fighting it off with either no symptoms or very mild ones).
For the vast majority of people, that level of protection is going to be absolutely fine.
It's then about targetting the groups which need an extra level of protection, but we already do that with success every year with the flu jab - and all of these vaccines have a better rate of efficacy than any flu jab, to boot.
"Why's there so much traffic?!" people moan, as they queue up for 2 hours to go to the dump...
Does she work in a Private nursing home Goat?. If so it's well deserved. In my experience a lot of those are on minimum wage.My daughter is getting an 800 bonus for the last year.
We dont need lockdowns. We need a different lifestyle whereby intense targetted intervention into a person's life when infected is tolerated for the greater good (ie, track and trace which forcibly compels quarantining that person and his contacts). That's what happens in countries that have all but eliminated the virus as a major existential threat.
The consumerist, individualistic largely non-interventionist Western countries will continue to suffer a massive death rate until we adapt and change.
Vaccines wont do it for us. They'll, at best. give us a few weeks or months free from mega death, then they'll become largely obsolete and we'll need different vaccine...and round and round and round in an endless cycle of spike then trough taking with it hundreds of thousands of lives.
This is a Darwinian moment. Adapt or perish.
I especially like the ones of people on a crowded beach complaining about the beach being crowdedI see people are going outside and taking pictures of other people outside and moaning that other people are outside again.
It’s been a year and this nonsense is still happening.
He didn't hold back on health and care workers having the vaccine though. Said it was their professional responsibility. I've seen him take that stance before when asked.That Whitty is a laughing stock. Arse covering every time he talks.
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