Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Leaky wall, I suppose he’s right in a way, the U.K. has been terrific with their roll out, still a bit of the way to go though.

We could have a 100% effective vaccine and the idiot would still be advocating caution because some people wouldn't have it.

He knows what he's doing. He's covering his own arse. He knows, as we all do, that people will continue to die from COVID, and he's being a coward by not acknowledging the balance between that and society functioning.

It's deeply cynical what he's doing IMO.
 
We could have a 100% effective vaccine and the idiot would still be advocating caution because some people wouldn't have it.

He knows what he's doing. He's covering his own arse. He knows, as we all do, that people will continue to die from COVID, and he's being a coward by not acknowledging the balance between that and society functioning.

It's deeply cynical what he's doing IMO.

CMO though, that’s his job really frank advice on Public Health, I’m not sure he’s being overly cautious either, I mean the U.K. are what a quarter in to their full vaccination programme, in that context there still is a vulnerability to and if there was a surge.

Seems to me, the narrative on a third wave seems to overarching over the last week by many in and connected to the U.K. Government.
 
Complete and total nonsense. Vaccine protects from death and hospitalisation for the SA variant. You obviously know that though so I don't get the point you are making.

Personally for me they should bring forward reopening. All outdoor gatherings of less than 100 people should be allowed straight away. Texas and Florida are leading the way, we need to follow the science.

EDIT: also foreign travel needs to be allowed for all of the population. Its crazy that only the elites are able to travel at the moment effectively creating a 2 tier society. Get the airports open.
Florida should not be look at as an example of success, at least not yet.

“The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Florida has been steadily rising, though hospitalizations and deaths are still down. Over the past week, the state has averaged nearly 5,000 cases per day, an increase of 8 percent from its average two weeks earlier.

B.1.1.7, the more contagious variant first identified in Britain, is also rising exponentially in Florida, where it accounts for a greater proportion of total cases than in any other state, according to numbers collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Florida has had one of the country’s most confusing and inefficient vaccination campaigns, and has fully vaccinated about 15 percent of its population — well below what top states, like New Mexico and South Dakota, have managed. Still, immunization of older people and other high-risk individuals may blunt the number of Florida’s deaths somewhat.”

 
You do know we probably wont ever be able to eradicate this virus, right?

Its here forever.

Not unless we go full China.
Th only way lifting restrictions made sense was when the whole population had received a vacccine. That way the possiblity of variants taking hold and probably neutralising the vaccines would be minimized.

Of course, that wouldn't do for the Tory Death Cult. They want the economy open for the whole of Q2 and Q3 in order to do their corporate master's bidding.

Expect mega death here in the autumn/winter.

Until this country gets the message that the old normal is gone there will continue to be catastrophe after catastrophe.

IMO there is a very good case for a coup in order to save the hundreds of thousands who will lose their lives as a result of these Tory fanatics carrying out a holocaust.
 
Th only way lifting restrictions made sense was when the whole population had received a vacccine. That way the possiblity of variants taking hold and probably neutralising the vaccines would be minimized.

Of course, that wouldn't do for the Tory Death Cult. They want the economy open for the whole of Q2 and Q3 in order to do their corporate master's bidding.

Expect mega death here in the autumn/winter.

Until this country gets the message that the old normal is gone there will continue to be catastrophe after catastrophe.

IMO there is a very good case for a coup in order to save the hundreds of thousands who will lose their lives as a result of these Tory fanatics carrying out a holocaust.
Coup and Holocaust in the same post? You are seriously outdoing yourself here fella. Bravo.
 
Th only way lifting restrictions made sense was when the whole population had received a vacccine. That way the possiblity of variants taking hold and probably neutralising the vaccines would be minimized.

Of course, that wouldn't do for the Tory Death Cult. They want the economy open for the whole of Q2 and Q3 in order to do their corporate master's bidding.

Expect mega death here in the autumn/winter.

Until this country gets the message that the old normal is gone there will continue to be catastrophe after catastrophe.

IMO there is a very good case for a coup in order to save the hundreds of thousands who will lose their lives as a result of these Tory fanatics carrying out a holocaust.
I dont wish to be 1 of them.

But the majority of deaths have occurred within the groups that have already been vaccinated.

We cant control variants, they are mutating as we speak in Brazil, France, Germany, The US, Kent, they will happen and quite frankly there's nothing we can do about them.

You say THEY want the economy open, I think I speak for us all when I say WE want the economy open, there's no reason to keep it closed, we have vaccinated the most at risk, its time we remembered what life is about, why we all sacrificed our lives for the last 12 months.

And good luck with your coup, I reckon you could find about 10 people who don't think we should open everything back up, maybe hire a 15 seater mini bus to play it safe, I know a fella who can get you a few shooters, cheap as chips, good luck Dave.
 
Q: Are we really at risk of a third wave, given how many people have been vaccinated?

Whitty says there is a wall of protection that will get stronger with second doses. “But it is not a complete wall, it is a leaky wall.”

If there is a small surge, people will get severe disease and die. If there is a big wave, there will be a “significant impact”.


How can anyone read that from Whitty tonight and expect the vaccines to be "doing the heavy lifting" against this virus, I dont know.

The vaccines were always just an aid in the fight against the virus, never the panacea. We were sold a pup on that in the winter to chummie us along.

As said: behavioural changes + real world class track and trace is the only way forward. SUPPRESS the virus. Get investment into therapeutics.
 
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