Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Nymzee]

I’ll be honest I went the gym first few days this week , I’ve not now but I’m already finding it incredibly frustrating but I suppose I’ve felt it’s the correct move for me now . I’m certainly in no position to criticise anyone and I’m already rattling to go .

I just don't get the mindset personally. You can achieve outside/home what you can in the gym. People being asked to stay indoors as much as possible with Internet, food, hot water, beds, security, entertainment etc. you'd think the goverment is trying to shove everyone into a gulag. We are very lucky that most of us in the country have a very comfortable isolation standard.

 

[BlueToff]

I never said that's all we could have done, I think we're handling it fine over here by all accounts in terms of smoothing the workload of the NHS. It could have been so much worse than it is right now. We have enough beds as it stands, we're cancelling non-important surgeries, more faux hospitals are being organised etc. More ventilators would have been nice and I suspect once this is all done we'll likely stock more of them.

Apologies for putting words in your mouth, then.

This thing is going to peak quickly regardless of the measures (which I know should be followed and in the main are doing). And when it does peak we won't have enough beds, or ventilators. And that will lead to a lot of deaths which were avoidable.

 

[Nymzee]

Crossed wires then - my initial point (which you quoted) stated i was talking about people online having a go at those who have had to go to work in these places.

I've been to the gym twice this week. Both times it was empty. It's the only place I've gone other than home or the shop this week. I'm allowed to try and keep myself fit. I'm showing no symptoms but I know that doesn't necessarily mean I haven't got it. But what am I supposed to do? I can't get tested so how do I know unless I show some symptoms.

Very arrogant viewpoint here. You can get fit in your house, you can get fit running around in a field with a load of sheep. You might go there without it, catch it IN there, then spread it on elsewhere. How can't you see this?

It's getting beyond common sense now.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Hope you guys have people who can hit the shops for you pal.

My Mrs has taken to baking bread here for the first time, normal sliced pan 1.50, ingredients to bake bread 20 euro. I might have to self isolate for a different reason then the virus.

We have a COVID-19 WhatsApp group for our street so are boring our neighbours rigid as we speak. I think @Morag is a wizard with home baking as well. Stoke up the ovens and feed the nation.

 

[Nymzee]

Apologies for putting words in your mouth, then.

This thing is going to peak quickly regardless of the measures (which I know should be followed and in the main are doing). And when it does peak we won't have enough beds, or ventilators. And that will lead to a lot of deaths which were avoidable.

Yes hence self-isolation, social distancing and a possible lockdown... the longer we can stall a peak the more beds and ventilators will be available.

Again, common sense.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Missus working from home now.My whole daily routine is out the window.SHE SEES EVERYTHING FFS lol

I think you are thinking this is harder to spot than it actually is...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

My mrs has been up half the night with a fever and a rancid cough so we're in isolation for 14 days now.

Lucky I can work from home. Johnson needs to get on it with the tests, it's poor AF having to self-isolate for 2 weeks when it probably isn't even Covid-19, as paracetamol bought her temperature under control and her cough has improved this morning. Got to think of other people though, haven't you?

I'm concluding from this sample (ignoring @tsubaki ) that this is clearly an affliction that affects women

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The scenes in Italy late last night were horrific people on here have to realise it's not flu symtoms after the initial onset of sore throats temperature etc it rapidly turns into a form of pneumonia with a 50-50 chance of surviving .......in the Italian units they shown Armageddon one Dr called it in charge ......

Thanks for keeping our spirits up Joe lol

 

[BlueToff]

Very arrogant viewpoint here. You can get fit in your house, you can get fit running around in a field with a load of sheep. You might go there without it, catch it IN there, then spread it on elsewhere. How can't you see this?

It's getting beyond common sense now.

There was nobody in the gym when I went in. All of the equipment is getting cleaned every half-an-hour and I used antibac and wipes on every piece of equipment I used after going on it.

I have as much risk as catching it 'in there' (an empty room) as I do from going in a shop - in fact since there were more people in the supermarket when I went in to get some milk and bread and stuff then there was a lot more risk from then than the gym in this instance.

I may not go again this week. It's probably going to shut soon anyway. But I don't have the equipment I needed to keep up with my plan and since I'm currently getting back fit from a hamstring injury I don't want to overstrain myself running. My health is important to me (for one it gives me confidence that if I get sick I can probably fight it off better than someone who slobs about all day).

So of course I can see what you're saying. But in the instance of me going the gym the other day, when it was empty and cleaned, I don't see how I'm putting people in any more danger than I was when I needed to go buy bread and milk?

 

[Harryflashman]

I just don't get the mindset personally. You can achieve outside/home what you can in the gym. People being asked to stay indoors as much as possible with Internet, food, hot water, beds, security, entertainment etc. you'd think the goverment is trying to shove everyone into a gulag. We are very lucky that most of us in the country have a very comfortable isolation standard.

that’s fine mate and I’m pleased you can achieve that wherever you are . I’ve not suggested anyone is sticking me in a gulag I just verbalised my opinion and having been in a cell this is clearly very different . I’ve seen some terrible places and some terrible things and in no way was I either comparing it to my situation nor asking for sympathy .

I’ve discussed it in another stickied thread exercise and routine have proven hugely important to me for a host of reasons , particularly several years ago . it was crucial for a host of incredibly dull physical and mental reasons. I’m just saying or I was trying to say that I miss it and a current injury compounds my ability to do any real exercise so personally I find it incredibly frustrating. I’m aware others have it significantly worse and in reality it should probably be relatively low down on my list of concerns but it isn’t because it’s something I go to in an any time of crisis, be that big or small.

 

[summerisle]

 

[BlueToff]

Yes hence self-isolation, social distancing and a possible lockdown... the longer we can stall a peak the more beds and ventilators will be available.

Again, common sense.

Yes, I agree.

And common sense would have been having more ready to begin with. Wouldn't you agree?

We knew this was coming. So there's no excuse.

 

[Nymzee]

There was nobody in the gym when I went in. All of the equipment is getting cleaned every half-an-hour and I used antibac and wipes on every piece of equipment I used after going on it.

I have as much risk as catching it 'in there' (an empty room) as I do from going in a shop - in fact since there were more people in the supermarket when I went in to get some milk and bread and stuff then there was a lot more risk from then than the gym in this instance.

I may not go again this week. It's probably going to shut soon anyway. But I don't have the equipment I needed to keep up with my plan and since I'm currently getting back fit from a hamstring injury I don't want to overstrain myself running. My health is important to me (for one it gives me confidence that if I get sick I can probably fight it off better than someone who slobs about all day).

So of course I can see what you're saying. But in the instance of me going the gym the other day, when it was empty and cleaned, I don't see how I'm putting people in any more danger than I was when I needed to go buy bread and milk?

That is two places you can infect/get infected whereas you could have just made it one place with the shop.

I'm sorry but a desire to get buff or whatever in the gym is so stupidly unimportant right now.

I agree, fitness improves the immune system and you can get fit in your living room. Literally hundreds of home workouts without proper equipment.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Very arrogant viewpoint here. You can get fit in your house, you can get fit running around in a field with a load of sheep. You might go there without it, catch it IN there, then spread it on elsewhere. How can't you see this?

It's getting beyond common sense now.

Isn't that kind of fraternising with animals what got us into this mess in the first place?

 

[BlueToff]

that’s fine mate and I’m pleased you can achieve that wherever you are . I’ve not suggested anyone is sticking me in a gulag I just verbalised my opinion and having been in a cell this is clearly very different . I’ve seen some terrible places and some terrible things and in no way was I either comparing it to my situation nor asking for sympathy .

I’ve discussed it in another stickied thread exercise and routine have proven hugely important to me for a host of reasons , particularly several years ago . it was crucial for a host of incredibly dull physical and mental reasons. I’m just saying or I was trying to say that I miss it and a current injury compounds my ability to do any real exercise so personally I find it incredibly frustrating. I’m aware others have it significantly worse and in reality it should probably be relatively low down on my list of concerns but it isn’t because it’s something I go to in an any time of crisis, be that big or small.

I don't see why people are so eager to make everyone feel guilty.

It's been a week of this and there's 12 to go. I don't see what's wrong in trying to keep yourself going in whatever way you can as long as you're not endangering other peope.

If that gym I go to was full, I wouldn't go in. I'd give it a rain check. It wasn't. I was on my own and the staff told me it had been wiped down and cleaned. I did my hour and a bit, cleaned up as best I could, used hand sanitiser. The works.

I don't see how that's endangering any more people than simply going to buy some food does.