Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

So my sister´s school has 102 kids altogether. 37 will still be attending school from next week.

Absolutely ridiculous. What is the point in closing when you´re going to have those kind of numbers still coming everyday? You might as well keep all the other kids in there too.

This was my point the other day but I got told I was wrong.

I do see the logic in shutting the schools and it had to happen. But they're not really shut now. And those key workers (especially NHS staff) are going to be going home to their kids at night and have a higher risk of infection anyway? And their kids are going to then be going to school?

 

[BlueToff]

There aren't 12 weeks to go ffs.

That's going off what the PM said yesterday...

Btw, I didn't take it as he meant 12 weeks of isolation. But that was the time they gave to, how did he put it, 'turn the tide'.

Personally I can't see how most people who are going to get this won't have got it by the start of May, given the infection rate.

But as you rightly say, the measures are to try and spread it out so not as many people need intensive care all at once. But surely those measures are going to have to continue for much longer than just a few weeks if that's the case?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

How is London coping without the dinner party scene?

That's what we all want to know.

It was quite funny reading some tweets from earlier in the week after rumours spread about London being locked down. It was broadly of the "[Poor language removed] off you virus infected meffs if you think you're fleeing London to come to our bucolic paradise in Cornwall/Chilterns/wherever". Made me proud to be British it did lol

 

[BlueToff]

The problem i have with the immunity herd thing mate, is to achieve 60% of immunity in the UK, the UK will have to go through worse then what we are seeing in Italy at the moment. The death toll there is at is close to 4k with 41k cases.

39 million will have to get the virus for 60% herd immunity - if it turns out to be true you cant get it again which isn't conclusive.

The following is the the death rate per 1000 confirmed cases in the world per country

Italy: 82.98
Iran: 69.76
Spain: 46.16
UK: 44.05
China 40.1
Netherlands: 30.89
France 28.9
USA 15.06
Belgium:11.07
S.Korea:10.62
Sweden: 7.64
Denmark: 5.21

So if you apply the UK's mortality rate into of 44.05 per 1000 cases into 39 million, its scary and that is as today, without applying the principal of exponential growth.

Its a simple decision self isolate or loose that number of people. Life will be hard, but we will be around to moan about it.

Oh I'm not advocating it as a way to do it mate. I need to make that clear. I think it's far too risky. There'd be about 400,000 deaths.

I'm just stating the fact that, so far, the only way to know that you're 'safe' from this illness is if you get it and recover.

So my point really was, where does that leave us?

In my mind, the only way a 'herd immunity' plan would have worked would have been if we'd have had a load of beds available and ventilators and stuff. Cancelled all large gatherings for a set time (continuously reviewed etc). So there could then be a more calculated approach to it. You could mitigate for a certain amount of people getting it, and then know you had the systems in place to handle those who needed the care.

The worrying thing was it was the plan this time last week, but they hadn't done enough of the prep work which would have needed to go into it. That's why they've had to change their approach so much.

 

[marnie]

Shes making Guinness bread mate so a six pack of the black magic thrown in as well and threw in some bits for cookies as well, or as i like to call them biscuits!

AHHH I get it now.You best get down the chemist and spend another 10 euro on Gaviscon.You might need it lol

 

[tsubaki]

That's going off what the PM said yesterday...

Btw, I didn't take it as he meant 12 weeks of isolation. But that was the time they gave to, how did he put it, 'turn the tide'.

Personally I can't see how most people who are going to get this won't have got it by the start of May, given the infection rate.

But as you rightly say, the measures are to try and spread it out so not as many people need intensive care all at once. But surely those measures are going to have to continue for much longer than just a few weeks if that's the case?

Its a horrible thing to say in a time like this, but people should really stop automatically believing what comes out of that mans mouth.

 

[Paris]

There aren't 12 weeks to go ffs.

Indeed, it'll be longer.

However long it takes to ensure that the football season is completely cancelled.

 

[Toast]

Coronavirus: World Snooker Championship at Crucible postponed

The World Snooker Championship, due to start at the Crucible on 18 April, is postponed because of the coronavirus pandemic.

www.bbc.co.uk

I treated myself to proper boss tickets for this as well.
Obviously cancelled the hotel this morning along with everyone else no doubt and that will have a knock on effect.

 

[BlueToff]

Its a horrible thing to say in a time like this, but people should really stop automatically believing what comes out of that mans mouth.

Yes. But I have to put faith in someone - the medical advisors at least.

I'm not saying I trust Johnson. Not as far as I could throw him.

But if it's not going to be 12 weeks, then even with these approaches, we're still looking at loads and loads of deaths, surely?

 

[BlueToff]

I treated myself to proper boss tickets for this as well.
Obviously cancelled the hotel this morning along with everyone else no doubt and that will have a knock on effect.

Yeh but you can't feel bad about it. At the end of the day this is no indvidual's fault.

(Apart from the bloke who wanted a bat sandwich, like).

 

[Goat]

Its come out of a Laboratory.... germ warfare accidently escaped - ask Putin...... who has disappeared in his bunker somewhere

Im sure this is a joke Joey, but they have proven that it was 100% a natural occurrence.

I mean if you consider shagging bats natural that is.

 

[tsubaki]

Yes. But I have to put faith in someone - the medical advisors at least.

I'm not saying I trust Johnson. Not as far as I could throw him.

But if it's not going to be 12 weeks, then even with these approaches, we're still looking at loads and loads of deaths, surely?

Less than we might have had if he'd gone with his original plan, and they'll be spread out over time more.

 

[Goat]

Yes. But I have to put faith in someone - the medical advisors at least.

I'm not saying I trust Johnson. Not as far as I could throw him.

But if it's not going to be 12 weeks, then even with these approaches, we're still looking at loads and loads of deaths, surely?

Yes mate there will be loads and loads and loads of deaths.

But without certain measures those deaths will be 10 fold.

We cant beat this, its unbeatable, its about slowing it down, its about giving the NHS as much time needed to prepare for when we reach peak Italy, which is about 2 weeks away.

 

[Blueclouds]

Those scenes from the hospital in Italy is horrendous

 

[BlueToff]

Yes mate there will be loads and loads and loads of deaths.

But without certain measures those deaths will be 10 fold.

We cant beat this, its unbeatable, its about slowing it down, its about giving the NHS as much time needed to prepare for when we reach peak Italy, which is about 2 weeks away.

I'm all for that Goat and literally, bar going to an empty gym twice and then to the shop once, I haven't left the house this week other than to go on a walk/run, whereas I've said I've not come into contact with anyone.

I'm following the measures and everyone I know is too.

Just don't think this is the time to be making people feel guilty if they choose to leave the house. People need that for their own mental wellbeing as well.

This'd be different if we had some way to know we're infected but we simply don't other than a test, which you have to qualify for.