Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueStevie35]

Complete and total nonsense. Vaccine protects from death and hospitalisation for the SA variant. You obviously know that though so I don't get the point you are making.

Personally for me they should bring forward reopening. All outdoor gatherings of less than 100 people should be allowed straight away. Texas and Florida are leading the way, we need to follow the science.

EDIT: also foreign travel needs to be allowed for all of the population. Its crazy that only the elites are able to travel at the moment effectively creating a 2 tier society. Get the airports open.

Florida is a basket case of a state, worse than the UK for being open invitation

 

[Tipp blue]

It will happen when the SA variant or yet another that evades the vaccines appears - which is an absolute inevitanbility with this government when people start travelling abroad (which they will).

Only 1% of those arriving back from abroad now are quarantined.

Put your thinking cap on and make the projection.

The difficult part is creating the initial vaccine that's done, variants are easily dealt with with slight modifications to vaccines, it happens every year with flu vaccines.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Wait'll they open hospitality. Restaurants and ale houses will cause an utter tsunami of infections.

No wonder Whitty is talking about a summer of unprecedented Covid19 cases.

Matter of time before that protein called E or something or other, evades current vaccine. And already going to be boosters for older people come autumn.

Awful, to read people mocking friends and family who have had vaccine and are still cautious, that's what the science is saying exactly how to behave. Must just be for internet larfs.

 

[COYBL25]

Complete and total nonsense. Vaccine protects from death and hospitalisation for the SA variant. You obviously know that though so I don't get the point you are making.

Personally for me they should bring forward reopening. All outdoor gatherings of less than 100 people should be allowed straight away. Texas and Florida are leading the way, we need to follow the science.

EDIT: also foreign travel needs to be allowed for all of the population. Its crazy that only the elites are able to travel at the moment effectively creating a 2 tier society. Get the airports open.

Spain and Holland both held open air events at the weekend, as a “ tester “ for getting events back on the road.

People got a Test and notified before they went in.

Anyone testing positive test, sent home and got a refund.

 

[Neiler]

This would be really welcome and hopefully others would follow.

 

[jonnyboy316]

Florida is a basket case of a state, worse than the UK for being open invitation

Saw last night the UFC has announced their first full capacity indoor event for Florida at the end of April. 15k fans. I thought a few weeks ago it looked 50/50 as to whether the US might experience a big third wave but their programme has really taken off now.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Not sure if stockpile is the correct word, these are reserves for 2nd doses for people who have already had the first dose.

It’s more likely to be the result of people deciding not to be vaccinated, especially with the AZ vaccine.

The German health ministry said last week that it had used just 15 per cent of the AstraZeneca doses it has received as people across the country refuse the jab. In Saxony, the German Red Cross told the news programme ZDF Heute that only 20 to 30 appointments were being booked for AstraZeneca jabs daily in the state.

France had issued just 16 per cent of its AstraZeneca doses as of 25 February, Italy a fifth and Spain a third. By contrast, uptake of the Pfizer jab hovers around 80 per cent, according to data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, an EU agency.

 

[maccavennie]

Completely different reaction this morning to my second jab than the first, woke up fresh as a daisy, no headaches/dizziness/nausea just the standard soreness from where the needle went in, still a chance I could feel a bit washed out later but right now I’m feeling great

The nurse said to me the 2nd dose of AZ isn't as bad as the first so I'm hopeful of being able to break dance and body pop the following day.

I guess everyone reacts differently though don't they.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Florida is a basket case of a state, worse than the UK for being open invitation

Florida is completely open and has been for some time. They try to protect the nursing homes rather than complete lockdown. I believe some local areas have mask mandates etc. Florida is 27th out of the 50 states for COVID deaths even though they have one of the oldest populations in the USA.

Biden and other Dems seem to hate Florida because they have managed to find the right balance.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[spectateur]

I’d heard that France required a longish set of forms/approvals to be filled in before getting the vaccine but didn’t realise Germany was doing similar...is this true ?

”Cardiologist Dr Joachim Wunderlich, who has helped at a vaccination centre in Berlin, told CBS News that the bureaucratic process for people to get vaccinated in Germany was 'unbelievable'.

He added that the amount of paperwork involved was 'insane'.

'You can't expect an over-80-year-old to fill out 10 pages and numerous consent forms and ask them to call a hotline to make an appointment. And then they risk being turned away because they forgot some forms at home.'

Wunderlich continued: 'The pandemic is daunting enough, bureaucracy and data protection laws shouldn't make it even worse.“.....

Checking in procedure in France is simple.
1. Consent form. Fill in social security and ID details.
2.health check form with doctor.
3.injection given by the nurse.
Takes 5 min at most.

 

[peteblue]

Checking in procedure in France is simple.
1. Consent form. Fill in social security and ID details.
2.health check form with doctor.
3.injection given by the nurse.
Takes 5 min at most.

How many pages is the consent form?......

 

[peteblue]

Poor old Poland is getting some terrible case numbers at the moment, 7 day average of 26K with deaths following the increase....

 

[Billy Dean]

It’s more likely to be the result of people deciding not to be vaccinated, especially with the AZ vaccine.

The German health ministry said last week that it had used just 15 per cent of the AstraZeneca doses it has received as people across the country refuse the jab. In Saxony, the German Red Cross told the news programme ZDF Heute that only 20 to 30 appointments were being booked for AstraZeneca jabs daily in the state.

France had issued just 16 per cent of its AstraZeneca doses as of 25 February, Italy a fifth and Spain a third. By contrast, uptake of the Pfizer jab hovers around 80 per cent, according to data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, an EU agency.

It’s a bit of both mate. Germany is holding back at least 30% of doses for second doses. Not just AZ but everything. Also Germany only recently released AZ for older people. Not just people refusing although that is happening too.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There's only so much face palming you can do.