Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Sassy Colombian]

This sharing is going to have to happen more often if we are going to defeat this virus worldwide. Although the vaccine they are sending is the AstraZeneca

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Good news, hopefully this puts an end to these silly delays.

It was always essentially politically motivated using smaller legitimate ongoing concerns largely as an excuse to deflect.

The fact the AZ vaccine is already hugely unpopular makes the audacious attempt to compel the UK Astra Zeneca sites to export UK government allocated stocks hard to fathom, it perhaps shows just how much it's politically motivated.

Essentially Von der Leyen is trying to show a disgruntled, frustrated and suspicious European audience she's doing something after the mounting criticism from all quarters. It's unfounded nationalistic posturing matched by threats against multinationals backed by might and sanctions.

She's slipping along a greasy path to the type of tyrannical behaviour associated with undemocratic centrally ruled big brother states. She's turning into Europe's version of Putin.

 

[Neiler]

It was always essentially politically motivated using smaller legitimate ongoing concerns largely as an excuse to deflect.

The fact the AZ vaccine is already hugely unpopular makes the audacious attempt to compel the UK Astra Zeneca sites to export UK government allocated stocks hard to fathom, it perhaps shows just how much it's politically motivated.

Essentially Von der Leyen is trying to show a disgruntled, frustrated and suspicious European audience she's doing something after the mounting criticism from all quarters. It's unfounded nationalistic posturing matched by threats against multinationals backed by might and sanctions.

She's slipping along a greasy path to the type of tyrannical behaviour associated with undemocratic centrally ruled big brother states. She's turning into Europe's version of Putin.

That is quite out there mate, the EMA never recommended a pause - in fact the opposite. Many EU countries never paused, while a few sovereign EU nations took their own decision. Outside of the EU many countries also paused it, Norway, Canada, Indonesia, Thailand to name a few - its an international health alert system the concern was raised through. The UK has also investigated it. What any of that has to do with UVL, im not sure, who incidentally was hinting at export bans because she couldn't get her hands on the stuff yesterday.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

That is quite out there mate, the EMA never recommended a pause - in fact the opposite. Many EU countries never paused, while a few sovereign EU nations took their own decision. Outside of the EU many countries also paused it, Norway, Canada, Indonesia, Thailand to name a few - its an international health alert system the concern was raised through. The UK has also investigated it. What any of that has to do with UVL, im not sure, who incidentally was hinting at export bans because she couldn't get her hands on the stuff yesterday.

Cant under estimate the deflection this Government and it supporters need in making the EU look bad, not only with our dead from COVID also Brexit mess.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

That is quite out there mate, the EMA never recommended a pause - in fact the opposite. Many EU countries never paused, while a few sovereign EU nations took their own decision. Outside of the EU many countries also paused it, Norway, Canada, Indonesia, Thailand to name a few - its an international health alert system the concern was raised. The UK has also investigated it. What any of that has to do with UVL, im not sure, who incidentally was hinting at export bans because she couldn't get her hands on the stuff yesterday.

I never once said the EMA recommended pausing. The action Von der Leyen took included threats to block exports, extraordinary measures to override property rights and seize factories etc.

Her language clearly spelled out and threatened vaccine trade wars, punitive action and offered a helping hand to the Covid virus.The whole tone across many European countries has been set and although national governments act autonomously the major ones speak to each other and tend do do so in unison.

 

[jinkyali]

As of next week in house school testing stops and kids are asked to do two at home per week alongside family members.

I suspect the number of positives will increase as will the number of tests.

 

[roydo]

As of next week in house school testing stops and kids are asked to do two at home per week alongside family members.

I suspect the number of positives will increase as will the number of tests.

That cos its Easter holidays?

 

[SussexToffee]

HOSPITAL DATA


Headline:

Admissions falling, UK patients just over 6000, England near 5000 and UK ventilators below 900 - down a huge 3200 in under 8 weeks. No wonder deaths are tumbling. And every England region down on both patients and ventilators again.

UK total:


Patients 6213 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 33, 035 in 59 days) :- lowest since 15 October

Ventilators 877 - it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3200 in 53 days) : lowest since 27 October


England only:-

ADMISSIONS:-

364 Covid admissions (15 March) - following 431, 357, 385, 386, 449 before.


PATIENTS:-

Patients down 314 in day to 5083 v 6687 last week :- lowest since 17 October.

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 29, 253 in 59 days)

Ventilators: Down in day 49 to 797 v 1101 last week :-lowest since 26 October

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 2939 in 53 days)



Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past 24 hours and v last week


East down 31 to 466 v 607 // down 2 to 81 v 102

London down 59 to 1023 v 1335 // down 14 to 260 v336

Midlands down 104 to 1100 v 1483 // down 10 to 176 v 242

NE & Yorks down 24 to 838 v 1077 // down 7 to 100 v 143

North West down 64 to 847 v 1080// down 12 to 90 v 136

South East down 31 to 618 v 846 // stays at 67 v 105

South West down 1 to 191 v 259 // down 4 to 23 v 37


The big drop continues and North West makes it under 100 on ventilators for first time since 4 October And patients under 900 for first time since that same day over 5 months ago.

 

[jinkyali]

That cos its Easter holidays?

No I think its because the policy was initially schools were going to do 3 tests and thst was it.
Suspect its to educate the youngsters how to do it at home.

 

[roydo]

No I think its because the policy was initially schools were going to do 3 tests and thst was it.
Suspect its to educate the youngsters how to do it at home.

"What you doing in the bathroom for so long?"

"Me covid test Mum".

 

[Amw79]

Matt Le Tiss casually implying that Bill Gates is having the president of Tanzania bumped off! The guy’s lost the plot.

 

[Tubey]

This sharing is going to have to happen more often if we are going to defeat this virus worldwide. Although the vaccine they are sending is the AstraZeneca

It's 'sharing' in the sense that they aren't using it as it isn't approved.

 

[navidson]

As of next week in house school testing stops and kids are asked to do two at home per week alongside family members.

I suspect the number of positives will increase as will the number of tests.

It's already happening in some schools - Some never did 'in-house' testing

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Duplicate please delete

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Cant under estimate the deflection this Government and it supporters need in making the EU look bad, not only with our dead from COVID also Brexit mess.

I've never followed any particular party and will always make up my own mind about issues. I was supportive of remaining in the EU in 2016 especially as regards trade. However this thread is the Coronavirus mega thread not the UK trading or Brexit one, and there is a difference even if there may be some overlap in specific areas.

its not hard to criticise obvious faults and I don't see why I would have to support this government to do so, it's been very, very apparent to everyone no matter whether they're naturally supportive of the EU that their response has been extremely poorly managed, too top heavy, chaotic and pretty pathetic at best.

Because you think something or some organisation is generally on the right track it doesn't mean you keep silent when they clearly aren't