davek
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Add a syringe to that and that was what I saw yesterday.
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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BlueStevie35
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davek
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Covid-19: EU states to resume AstraZeneca vaccine rollout
Germany, France, Italy and Spain will restart vaccinations after a regulator says it is "safe".
www.bbc.co.uk
A review by the European Union's medicines regulator has concluded the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine is "safe and effective".
The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said it would continue to study possible links between rare blood clots and the vaccine.
Its findings came after 13 EU states paused rollouts of the jab.
The World Health Organization (WHO) on Thursday called on countries to continue using the vaccine.
Much of Europe is struggling to contain a surge in coronavirus cases.
Decisions to suspend use of the vaccine sparked concerns over the pace of the region's vaccination drive, which had already been affected by supply shortages.
The WHO is due to release the results of its own review into the vaccine's safety on Friday.
The EMA investigation focused on a small number of cases of unusual blood disorders. In particular, it was looking at cases of cerebral venous thrombosis - blood clots in the head.
tsubaki
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A bit misleading that -
“However, Cooke says that based on available evidence, “we still cannot rule out definitely a link between these [blood clot] cases and the vaccine”.
from here:
Brazil suffers second-highest daily deaths – as it happened
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grandjoeblue
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A bit misleading that -
“However, Cooke says that based on available evidence, “we still cannot rule out definitely a link between these [blood clot] cases and the vaccine”.
from here:
Brazil suffers second-highest daily deaths – as it happened
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Not really misleading. Its clear the vaccine doesn't cause blood clots. As everyone who can comprehend basic statistics already knew.
We need vaccines in peoples arms as soon as possible. All of this nonsense needs to stop.
A bit misleading that -
“However, Cooke says that based on available evidence, “we still cannot rule out definitely a link between these [blood clot] cases and the vaccine”.
from here:
Brazil suffers second-highest daily deaths – as it happened
This blog is now closed. We’ve launched a new blog at the link below:
How many cases has EU seen?
Dr Sabine Straus says: "As of last night, seven cases of this disseminated intravascular coagulation and 18 cases of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis were reported out of almost 20 million vaccinated people.
"Furthermore, such cases were not identified in the large clinical trials."
tsubaki
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No, it’s not clear.
They are saying it doesn’t cause an increase in blood clots, but they can’t say it’s not caused *these* clots.
Yep, a statistical irrelevance. Many more cases of thrombosis in unvaccinated people would have occurred in the same time frame.
Because they can't. Same as they can't say paracetamol caused these clots. Because the clots occurred in vaccinated people, there's a theoretical chance the vaccine caused them even if there's no evidence of it.
What they are saying is that there's no obvious causation in a sample size of millions.
Basically it's as confident it isn't causing them as it's possible to be.
I thought it was clear. Anyway, the only thing that matters now is countries getting back to putting the AZ vaccine into people's arms.
tsubaki
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Again Tubey, the issue is not so much how many there’s been (as you say it’s a tiny number), it’s who this is happening to.
If there are issues caused by a specific set of circumstances, then we need to discover that not just say “yes but is dead rare”.
Otherwise all that will happen is that the papers over the next couple of months will start putting pictures of photogenic nurses who’ve died from this on the front page, and confidence in the vaccine will drop.
The incidence rate is lower than in the general population. It's broadly the same for Pfizer and AZ.
There's no evidence of causation whatsoever. What this is is a massive overabundance of caution.
Which is fine, they should do that, but this doesn't need to be made political. It's a case of being right for the wrong reasons when we're in the midst of a pandemic - this is a response you'd see to a medication in a normal world.
tsubaki
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they can though - that’s what they are doing now; both the MHRA and EMA said that
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