Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

They’ve just announced there’s been five cases, and one death, of this type in the UK :

UK Covid: Boris Johnson says vaccine supply issues will not lead to change in roadmap out of lockdown – as it happened

PM holds press conference; MHRA says no evidence AstraZenca vaccine causes blood clots and benefits outweigh risks but issues new advice

www.theguardian.com

If it is jab related, they really do need to bottom this out ASAP.

They do but it's striking that balance isn't it.

As unlikely as you are to die if you get covid, that's still a lot more likely than having this happen if you get the shot (if it is linked, which they need to establish).

It's how much do you risk the delay of the vaccine/suspending it as other countries have done, against the very slim likelihood of this happening.

 

[Amw79]

Just had call from doctors to go and get vaccine this afternoon. Happy days.

Just back. Got the gnat’s piss. Well organised, and efficient though, fair play.

 

[Neiler]

What are the symptoms they mention there besides easily bruising?

Norway have adviced:

“The Norwegian Medicine Agency is asking people who had the AstraZeneca vaccine in the last 14 days and who feel increasingly unwell with several large blue patches (skin haemorrhages) more than three days after vaccination, to consult the out-of-hours medical service or their doctor as soon as possible.”

 

[Neiler]

5pm ECT, for the EMA press conference on their recommendation on the AZ pause.

 

[grandjoeblue]

1 out of millions whilst sad for their family is still extremely low.

We cannot stumble the vaccine roll out needs to continue. You have to factor in that whilst 1 life has been lost well over 50,000 have been saved.

 

[Joey66]

Going for my 2nd jab next week .....see the EU doing their best to mess our vaccination programme up -hope Mackron gets stuffed in the next election...,.

 

[blulouie]

Won’t be happening, the 50’s and overs will all have been vaccinated by then.

They are the most vulnerable.

Sick of these four walls, a laptop, trips to Tesco with traffic lights outside, while some stupid website tells me “Fun things to do during lockdown”, like dancing on a webcam, cooking or watching a film.

Stuck inside these four walls
Sent inside forever
Never meeting no'one nice again
Like you, Mama, you, Mama, you .

 

[peteblue]

Going for my 2nd jab next week .....see the EU doing their best to mess our vaccination programme up -hope Mackron gets stuffed in the next election...,.

They won’t. They will look like idiots if they do, especially as the U.K. and USA provide them with components for the Pfizer vaccine. Either way, I’d rather we rely on our own manufactured vaccine and tell the EU to get stuffed.....

 

[tsubaki]

They do but it's striking that balance isn't it.

As unlikely as you are to die if you get covid, that's still a lot more likely than having this happen if you get the shot (if it is linked, which they need to establish).

It's how much do you risk the delay of the vaccine/suspending it as other countries have done, against the very slim likelihood of this happening.

That’s not the comparison though - it’s about how many people are going to have the vaccine with this appearing to be hanging over it vs how many people would have it if this looks like it’s being sorted out.

Whether stopping using it temporarily is an effective way of dealing with those concerns is something else, though when criticising them doing that one has to wonder whether saying basically it’s 11 million to one you get this is any more effective at ensuring people get jabbed (given that people pay millions to the lotto on worse than those odds, and of course if this is focused on a narrow group of people then the odds could be under six figures of it happening).

 

[Chris O'Connor]

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I think there is a requirement to realise the seriousness of the crisis, the pandemic is far more important than her saving face, her status or position. Her chaotic floundering leadership can't be undone

It's unfortunate and unhelpful she's tried to deflect attention by engaging in a kind of brinkmanship you would normally associate with far less democratic regimes, Russia comes to mind.

Threats to seize factories, waive or completely ignore property rights, rip up international trade law and blanket export bans aren't actions normally associated with democracy. I know the EU is more of a technocracy rather than anything resembling democracy but it's in danger of being seen in a much less flattering light than that.

If you ignore or stamp over property rights international firms won't be rushing to invest anywhere were you have either power or influence.

 

[peteblue]

I think there is a requirement to realise the seriousness of the crisis, the pandemic is far more important than her saving face, her status or position. Her chaotic floundering leadership can't be undone

It's unfortunate and unhelpful she's tried to deflect attention by engaging in a kind of brinkmanship you would normally associate with far less democratic regimes, Russia comes to mind.

Threats to seize factories, waive or completely ignore property rights, rip up international trade law and blanket export bans aren't actions normally associated with democracy. I know the EU is more of a technocracy rather than anything resembling democracy but it's in danger of being seen in a much less flattering light than that.

If you ignore or stamp over property rights international firms won't be rushing to invest anywhere were you have either power or influence.

Indeed. Even politically she should have kept quiet. Her failures over ordering vaccines etc had been overtaken by national leaders banning the AZ. She really should have said nothing, wait for the EMA to give the all clear then admonish national governments for doing their own thing and for storing 14 million AZ vaccines. Obviously she thinks that this will play well with those that may have wanted her sacked, but all she has done is dig a bigger hole. She’s way out of her depth in this role, but then again no one voted for her and was inserted by Merkel & Macron that well known company of fishmongers......

 

[Goat]

Just had a text to book for my vaccine, I'm gonna refuse anything that's not gnats piss.

 

[peteblue]

Just had a text to book for my vaccine, I'm gonna refuse anything that's not gnats piss.

A wise move....

 

[Tubey]

Just had a text to book for my vaccine, I'm gonna refuse anything that's not gnats piss.

The behind the scenes photos about how the AZ vaccine is made are brilliant.

 

[davek]

Norway have adviced:

“The Norwegian Medicine Agency is asking people who had the AstraZeneca vaccine in the last 14 days and who feel increasingly unwell with several large blue patches (skin haemorrhages) more than three days after vaccination, to consult the out-of-hours medical service or their doctor as soon as possible.”

I've got to go to Norway!?

FFS, they take it seriously dont they?