Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[jackyboy]

It isn't clear yet as it is only a proposal at the moment but I'm guessing it would require full vaccination as you aren't properly vaccinated until you've had both doses (or one in the case of Johnson & Johnson). You may also be able to travel if you can prove you have had covid. This is how it works with Israel's domestic vaccine passport (green pass).

It's also not clear whether all EU countries would be required to use a vaccine passport and there are numerous other issues to be worked out. For example Hungary has been using Sputnik and Sinopharm vaccines which aren't authorised by the EMA yet so those people wouldn't be covered by the passport.

Then there is the question of whether we can come to an agreement with the EU to be covered by the passport. In theory it shouldn't be a problem as we are using the same vaccines they are but again who knows.

It will all become clearer soon enough. Just don't book a holiday unless you know you can get your money back or are willing to lose it as we don't even know if we will be able to travel at all, let alone make use of vaccine passports.

From the bits I've seen it sounds like the rules regarding International Travel will become clearer next month. In any case I imagine that people will definitely be flying to places by June/July in any case, but imagine there will just be a list of blacklist countries/locations that you have to quarantine on return from.

I think there will also likely be some form of requirement for Proof of Vaccine/Negative Test Result.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Plus millions of unplanned pregnancies, including hundreds of thousands among teenagers, as well as increased spread, and deaths, of other diseases like HIV and tuberculosis due to lack of access to contraceptives and treatment. Stay home save lives!

 

[SussexToffee]

Why did we wait a year to have any effective air travel quarantine...

COVID-19: New Philippines-linked coronavirus variant investigated in England after two cases found

The P3 variant has come from the Philippines, which currently has the second-highest number of COVID-19 cases in South East Asia.

news.sky.com

This was mentioned earlier in the week, yet they’re bringing it back up again to scaremonger after the NHS letter news from yesterday. It’s exactly the same story but with a different date at the top.

This will put many people’s minds at rest, but not Dave’s!.

Covid vaccine: UK supply hit by India delivery delay

It is understood a shipment of five million AstraZeneca doses to the UK has been held up by four weeks.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SussexToffee]

Just what we all need another month in doors

Won’t be happening, the 50’s and overs will all have been vaccinated by then.

They are the most vulnerable.

Sick of these four walls, a laptop, trips to Tesco with traffic lights outside, while some stupid website tells me “Fun things to do during lockdown”, like dancing on a webcam, cooking or watching a film.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Won’t be happening, the 50’s and overs will all have been vaccinated by then.

They are the most vulnerable.

Sick of these four walls, a laptop, trips to Tesco with traffic lights outside, while some stupid website tells me “Fun things to do during lockdown”, like dancing on a webcam, cooking or watching a film.

believe it or not, some people somehow absolutely loved these stuff. they will be blocking the normalisation at every step...it will be a tough road ahead to be fully normal.

 

[SussexToffee]

believe it or not, some people somehow absolutely loved these stuff. they will be blocking the normalisation at every step...it will be tough road to be fully normal.

We already have one person on here who certainly does.

 

[SussexToffee]

We already have one person on here who certainly does.

People who don’t go on holiday, that’s the type that love this and hate pubs.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

With these vaccine passports for travel - have they said its going to be based on having had both doses or just at least the one?

No chance I'll have had both by August.

Both doses...Cyprus is nice in September

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Didn't we do so well. "World beating". Some might say.

Britain suffered worst recession of all G7 leading economies, says IMF

Britain suffered the deepest recession of all G7 leading nations last year and the economy will not return to pre-pandemic levels until next year, the Internati

www.thetimes.co.uk

"Britain suffered the deepest recession of all G7 leading nations last year and the economy will not return to pre-pandemic levels until next year, the IMF has said.

In a more optimistic global outlook than its October update, the IMF upgraded world growth, but singled out the UK as the only G7 economy to downgrade in 2020. Britain is now estimated to have shrunk by 10 per cent last year, worse than the 9.8 per cent projection in October."

 

[SussexToffee]

Got my second dose on the last day of the month. Will I be given anything like a document to prove I have been vaccinated once this is done?. If not, I’ll just keep the appointment card which should have both dates on it for future evidence.

 

[SussexToffee]

Didn't we do so well. "World beating". Some might say.

Britain suffered worst recession of all G7 leading economies, says IMF

Britain suffered the deepest recession of all G7 leading nations last year and the economy will not return to pre-pandemic levels until next year, the Internati

www.thetimes.co.uk

"Britain suffered the deepest recession of all G7 leading nations last year and the economy will not return to pre-pandemic levels until next year, the IMF has said.

In a more optimistic global outlook than its October update, the IMF upgraded world growth, but singled out the UK as the only G7 economy to downgrade in 2020. Britain is now estimated to have shrunk by 10 per cent last year, worse than the 9.8 per cent projection in October."

We always top league tables of everything that is bad. I’m used to it now. We can recover from this and do it quickly anyway.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Yes I also addressed that in my earlier points.

1/230000 blood clot
1/16000 Covid deaths 20 year old
Around 1/250 for 55 years

"The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic." – Josef Stalin.

 

[Tubey]

Plus millions of unplanned pregnancies, including hundreds of thousands among teenagers, as well as increased spread, and deaths, of other diseases like HIV and tuberculosis due to lack of access to contraceptives and treatment. Stay home save lives!

It's so hard to qualify the risk balance though. Like COVID could easily have killed three or four times more people (possibly more in certain continents) if we just ignored it, allowed variants to go wild etc. but at the same time lives undoubtedly would have been 'saved' if we hadn't locked down.

I don't think it's plausible for world health authorities to ignore a disease that overwhelms hospitals and suffocates people to death.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Europe top 5 (total doses)

UK 26,503,552
Turkey 11,696,296
Germany 9,853,966
Russia 7,698,889
France 7,552,120

 

[peteblue]

Tom Bradry on the ITV news .
Science correspondent said the slow down is due to 10 million vaccines due to arrive from India.
But reassuring there are enough made here to keep on track.

Yeah, this seems to be it. We were told that we were getting an extra 10million, a bonus, apparently 5 million have arrived and the other 5 million are awaiting a go ahead or not from the Indian government. The U.K. AZ production is fine and just carrying on and doesn’t affect the programme....