Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

The most vulnerable in the country have been vaccinated, its safe to now.

One jab is not enough. If it was there wouldn't be 2.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The most vulnerable in the country have been vaccinated, its safe to now.

Or just disposed.

Never mind vaccines and lockdowns.

CQC England report into Do Not Resuscitate (DNRs) during the pandemic make grim reading, 500 illegal DNRs for people in hospital from 200 care settings.

Heaven knows the real number of illegal DNRs, safe to assume running into thousands, if you scale up to actual 25,000 care settings.

If you have loved one in care, not just older people, also younger adults with learning or physical disabilities, be asking questions on what's been sneaked onto their clinical notes.

For disabled people, this report into ‘do not resuscitate’ orders is chilling | James Moore

What we’re talking about here is hundreds of people potentially having their human rights violated by orders imposed upon them without their or their families’ knowledge or consent

www.independent.co.uk

 

[davek]

AZ vaccine: is it a good or bad sign to now have 6 toes and a tail growing out of the back of me kecks?

 

[Goat]

One jab is not enough. If it was there wouldn't be 2.

Sound then, Uncle Albert should avoid going the pub till hes had 2 jabs.

Or you shouldn't visit Uncle Albert.

It doesn't mean anything should change and nor will it, if The Butcher starts changing dates now he will kick the hornets nest and there's a LOT and I mean a LOT of angry hornets.

 

[BlueToff]

That’s not the comparison though - it’s about how many people are going to have the vaccine with this appearing to be hanging over it vs how many people would have it if this looks like it’s being sorted out.

Whether stopping using it temporarily is an effective way of dealing with those concerns is something else, though when criticising them doing that one has to wonder whether saying basically it’s 11 million to one you get this is any more effective at ensuring people get jabbed (given that people pay millions to the lotto on worse than those odds, and of course if this is focused on a narrow group of people then the odds could be under six figures of it happening).

I'm not criticising, I'm saying there's a balance to be struck.

They made that call for whatever reason they made that call. Better to be safe than sorry, is the argument, and I totally get that. The other side of it is, there's a pandemic on that needs sorting asap too.

There's no easy or right answer until there's more evidence either way.

 

[BlueToff]

AZ vaccine: is it a good or bad sign to now have 6 toes and a tail growing out of the back of me kecks?

Glad you're in good spirits, Dave

 

[davek]

Glad you're in good spirits, Dave

It's the blood clots.

 

[BlueToff]

Good news of AZ.

All we need now is some of it! lol

Has that been passed then?

 

[davek]

Sound then, Uncle Albert should avoid going the pub till hes had 2 jabs.

Or you shouldn't visit Uncle Albert.

It doesn't mean anything should change and nor will it, if The Butcher starts changing dates now he will kick the hornets nest and there's a LOT and I mean a LOT of angry hornets.

The hornets cant be allowed to dictate policy. They'd be mere dupes of the Tory Death Cult and endanger the whole recovery seen after the winter catastrophe.

 

[Stoic Ape]

AZ vaccine: is it a good or bad sign to now have 6 toes and a tail growing out of the back of me kecks?

I'd love to have a tail, drink a pint of beer with it whilst rolling a smoke.

 

[Neiler]

Has that been passed then?

It was always passed mate, EMA has just looked into it and basically said the benefits out weigh the evidence of the risk at the mo - be a brave EU government who still pauses it IMO.

AstraZeneca is 'safe and effective' vaccine, says EMA, paving way for Ireland to begin using it again

Head of the EMA Emer Cooke said that the vaccine is safe and the benefits outweigh the risks.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[Goat]

The hornets cant be allowed to dictate policy. They'd be mere dupes of the Tory Death Cult and endanger the whole recovery seen after the winter catastrophe.

To be fair the hornets have mostly followed the rules, despite them being locked in the nest with very little honey.

All it takes is 1 more spark and we enter Madmax.

 

[Tubey]

You need to factor in the number of tests that have been carried out over the last 10 days since the kids went back to school. Something like an extra 700k/800k per day. I saw this morning that 12000 children have so far tested positive. These would almost certainly have been asymptomatic and represent on average around 1300/1400 per day that would not have been captured under previous testing policy. These children, and many who have come into contact with them, are now self isolating, whereas previously they would be spreading the disease unknowingly.

As the weeks progress it is expected that the number of positive tests amongst school children is going to reduce substantially and that will be reflected in the daily infection figures.

So the fact that the number of daily infections seems to have plateaued doesn't mean the R rate is going up. In fact it is still going down and for the UK as a whole is now down to 0.6-0.8. When the next ONS weekly figures are produced tomorrow I'm confident they will show another reduction in community infections. Last week England's was 1 in 270 people.

Really good point I hadn't considered, cheers mate.

 

[BlueToff]

It was always passed mate, EMA has just looked into it and basically said the benefits out weigh the evidence of the risk at the mo - be a brave EU government who still pauses it IMO.

AstraZeneca is 'safe and effective' vaccine, says EMA, paving way for Ireland to begin using it again

Head of the EMA Emer Cooke said that the vaccine is safe and the benefits outweigh the risks.

www.thejournal.ie

Yeah sorry, that's what I meant!

Good news, then. As expected.

 

[Neiler]

Norway aren't for bending on AZ, really bullish about the AZ and the link to clotting association:

Norwegian experts say deadly blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca covid vaccine

“Our theory that this is a powerful immune response most likely triggered by the vaccine, has been confirmed”, says professor and chief physician Pål Andre Holme. Three Norwegian health workers under the age of 50 have been hospitalized. One is dead.

sciencenorway.no