Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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TommyDavo said:
Sorry for replying to my own post ,but to expand a little, its not just the numbers but the level of treatment that the patients are undergoing. From what I hear just standard oxygen and that not for all
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Wish we we were not near 130,000 COVID dead and more near 20,000 we were first advised. But there we were are no fairy tale ending, well some less than others. So all is good. (Not).
 
Neiler said:
That is quite out there mate, the EMA never recommended a pause - in fact the opposite. Many EU countries never paused, while a few sovereign EU nations took their own decision. Outside of the EU many countries also paused it, Norway, Canada, Indonesia, Thailand to name a few - its an international health alert system the concern was raised through. The UK has also investigated it. What any of that has to do with UVL, im not sure, who incidentally was hinting at export bans because she couldn't get her hands on the stuff yesterday.
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You are being disingenuous, Canada certainly did not ‘pause’ the AZ vaccine....You suggest that ‘many Eu countries never paused while a few sovereign nations took their own decisions‘. 17 out of 27 nations ‘paused’ the rollout, the exact opposite of what you suggested.....Trying to suggest it was ‘an international health alert system’ when the MHRA, the EMA and the WHO all said carry on vaccinating is worthy of Goebbels....I won’t even comment on VDL because it is such a disgraceful threat.....
 
peteblue said:
You are being disingenuous, Canada certainly did not ‘pause’ the AZ vaccine....You suggest that ‘many Eu countries never paused while a few sovereign nations took their own decisions‘. 17 out of 27 nations ‘paused’ the rollout, the exact opposite of what you suggested.....Trying to suggest it was ‘an international health alert system’ when the MHRA, the EMA and the WHO all said carry on vaccinating is worthy of Goebbels....I won’t even comment on VDL because it is such a disgraceful threat.....
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Apologies, Canada didn’t, someone in work told me today they did and I just accepted it to be honest!

Yes, so over 33% of the EU didn’t pause it. It is an international health alert system mate, Norway activated it and many other countries that aren’t in the EU paused to. I don’t know why or how it’s productive to make this about the EU Vs Britannia’s vaccine, funny thing is there are a good few from our neck of the woods in key positions on the Oxford development team.

If you are asking me to accept or you suggest that the pause is down to an EU conspiracy to discredit AZ politically, then I think it’s tin foil hat stuff.

AZ have been poor partners certainly, but my position hasn’t changed, I’m on record here saying the pause was over cautious, but logical. I always said and hoped AZ would be fine.

What I would say, today’s advice by the EMA wasn’t conclusive, it said on balance the benefits out weigh risks, but weren’t prepared to say there wasn’t risks or links, they also publicly backed an information campaign that people be aware of the risks and be keeping data under review.

You know my position on the exports and imports - I’ve reams of stuff on it here - we won’t agree!

As for AZ overall, would I take it if I wasn’t vaccinated, absolutely, wouldn’t even blink.
 
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