Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Wish we we were not near 130,000 COVID dead and more near 20,000 we were first advised. But there we were are no fairy tale ending, well some less than others. So all is good. (Not).
Advised as the very best case scenario.

Yes, the death toll is absolutely awful. You can scream that until the cows come home, if you want - and you will do.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't be happy that right now, things are looking up. Long way to go.
 
During the last recession, a newspaper suggested we would be living off cheap food, with Frey Bentos pies being one of the examples.

Didn’t happen did it?. Because of this, I’m not letting the MSM’s frightmongering of what the future will be like after Covid and it’s resultant economy trashing, worry me.
 
Apologies, Canada didn’t, someone in work told me today they did and I just accepted it to be honest!Yes, so over 33% of the EU didn’t pause it. It is an international health alert system mate, Norway activated it and many other countries that aren’t in the EU paused to. I don’t know why or how it’s productive to make this about the EU Vs Britannia’s vaccine, funny thing is there are a good few from our neck of the woods in key positions on the Oxford development team.If you are asking me to accept or you suggest that the pause is down to an EU conspiracy to discredit AZ politically, then I think it’s tin foil hat stuff.AZ have been poor partners certainly, but my position hasn’t changed, I’m on record here saying the pause was over cautious, but logical. I always said and hoped AZ would be fine.What I would say, today’s advice by the EMA wasn’t conclusive, it said on balance the benefits out weigh risks, but weren’t prepared to say there wasn’t risks or links, they also publicly backed an information campaign that people be aware of the risks and be keeping data under review.

You know my position on the exports and imports - I’ve reams of stuff on it here - we won’t agree!

As for AZ overall, would I take it if I wasn’t vaccinated, absolutely, wouldn’t even blink.
Put crudely: the decision is that 'you cant make an omellette without cracking a few eggs'.
 
Put crudely: the decision is that 'you cant make an omellette without cracking a few eggs'.

Just watched, a web briefing from Norway, they definitely think somethings up. They are staying on suspension, Sweden to by the look of it for the moment.


They definitely feel something funny going on in Norway for sure, 3 in 120,000 doses compared to Uk 3 in 11,000,000 doses. How can the odds be so different? Norway have more younger people presenting with consistent symptoms of low platelets etc as well.

The Norwegians obviously think they have found something.
 
Just watched, a web briefing from Norway, they definitely think somethings up. They are staying on suspension, Sweden to by the look of it for the moment.


They definitely feel something funny going on in Norway for sure, 3 in 120,000 doses compared to Uk 3 in 11,000,000 doses. How can the odds be so different? Norway have more younger people presenting with consistent symptoms of low platelets etc as well.

The Norwegians obviously think they have found something.
Someone is keeping a lid on the UK data on clotting. That's obvious.

No wonder the murderer is making a big deal about taking AZ tomorrow (probably Pfizer with an AZ label on it).

AZ had no experience making vaccine before this, and it's showing.
 
Someone is keeping a lid on the UK data on clotting. That's obvious.

No wonder the murderer is making a big deal about taking AZ tomorrow (probably Pfizer with an AZ label on it).

AZ had no experience making vaccine before this, and it's showing.

They honestly sound totally convinced over there, which is surprising, given everyone else will roll back and reactivate it! I was surprised anyway! They took questions from the floor and a lot of heat, borderline derision, they were pretty good in rebuttals and seemed totally convinced in what they were seeing.

To be honest, I was impressed by their conviction, because they were going against the grain, the group think on show and the pressure gauge has switched sides!
 
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