Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I received a phone call around 6.30 last night asking me if I could go for vaccination that evening.

"What time?"
"As soon as possible."
"I'll be there in 10 minutes!"

When I got there I joined a queue for about 5 minutes, then in for the jab and out a couple of minutes later.

It was the AZ vaccine and everything was brilliantly organised.

Have to say that today I had a slight headache - seen off with a paracetamol - and a slightly aching body, like the mildest of mild flu symptoms. Nothing to worry about.
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
Looks like there will be plenty AstraZeneca doses going spare.

www.dw.com

Nordic countries halt use of AstraZeneca vaccine

Denmark, Iceland and Norway have stopped administering the shot while Italy has banned the use of a batch of AstraZeneca doses as a precaution after an unconfirmed number of people developed blood clots.
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I think the newspaper headlines, and the TV media reporting of this is poor tbh. Anybody would think they were actually trying to destabilise the vaccine process which is borderline criminal if true.

There have been a small number of blood clot cases across Europe in people that had recently taken the AZ vaccine. Some countries have suspended using the vaccine whilst they investigate the cases. Italy have stopped using that particular batch of vaccines but are still using other batches of AZ. All of the countries have stated that there is no evidence to suggest that the vaccine caused the blood clots and that they are acting as a precaution. The EMA themselves have come out and said categorically that there is no link and that countries should still continue to use the vaccine. Countries like France and Spain have confirmed they are using it as usual, as is the UK where close to 20m doses have been given.

The countries involved are perfectly within their rights to play it safe and investigate the clotting cases. Personally, given the small number of cases involved, I wonder if they are more in danger of putting lives at risk through covid dues to suspending the vaccines, but that's their decision to make.

I'm just disappointed at the way it is portrayed in our media. Some websites have a poll going on whether people would even have the AZ jab which I think is disgraceful.
 
peteblue said:
I think all J&J vaccines should go to third world countries. The West doesn’t need them and have distribution and vaccination processes in place. A single jab with fridge storage should be sent where it’s really needed....
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Never going to happen, the west will take what the west needs and then some, if you think the 3rd world is going to get much of a look in any time soon if ever then you are going to be way off.. the deadliest infectious disease on the planet TB still kills 1.5 million people a year despite the west having drugs to stop people dying from it. Money will see to it that the west will stockpile while poor countries have to battle this alone and we can all in the west live in blissful ignorance much like we do with TB.
 
Tipp blue said:
Never going to happen, the west will take what the west needs and then some, if you think the 3rd world is going to get much of a look in any time soon if ever then you are going to be way off.. the deadliest infectious disease on the planet TB still kills 1.5 million people a year despite the west having drugs to stop people dying from it. Money will see to it that the west will stockpile while poor countries have to battle this alone and we can all in the west live in blissful ignorance much like we do with TB.
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Yep, I said should, not will......
 
Neiler said:
86% against the UK variant.
48% against SA.

EEK is still the problem.

Most or our current vaccines are coming back with similar results, though the SA variant is problematic for AZ.

Good to know though!
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I was talking to my sister in law earlier who works in a care home with 65 residents they have lost nearly a third of them to covid over the last 2 months with the SA variant and the staff have been decimated with positive tests despite having the vaccine.
They are over the worst of it now but if anyone thinks this disease is nearly beaten should think again.
 
paultheblue said:
I was talking to my sister in law earlier who works in a care home with 65 residents they have lost nearly a third of them to covid over the last 2 months with the SA variant and the staff have been decimated with positive tests despite having the vaccine.
They are over the worst of it now but if anyone thinks this disease is nearly beaten should think again.
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Good to see you about mate, hope all is as good as it can be with you and yours!

Is your sister in SA? Sounds awful, they did well to save 66% in the variety got in there.

Tbh the SA i think is a big concern and probably the biggest risk to all the progress we made in the last year.
 
Neiler said:
Good to see you about mate, hope all is as good as it can be with you and yours!

Is your sister in SA? Sounds awful, they did well to save 66% in the variety got in there.

Tbh the SA i think is a big concern and probably the biggest risk to all the progress we made in the last year.
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Thanks mate

No mate she is in this country , they think one of the residents brought it back from a hospital visit
 
Neiler said:
To be very fair, the data from trials was a bit messy and incomplete particularly for that cohort, a bit of caution was the best in mitigation i think, but defo good news research has reassured and another vaccine for the over 70s!
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It wasn't messy, mate. It simply wasn't there in anything like reasonable volume.

I remember before Christmas the AZ announcement of their vaccine results was met with a tepid response from certain scientific quarters. AZ went silent on that and then came back with another statement in the new year that they'd try and strike up a partnership with another vaccine maker. Then a few weeks later we had the big announcement that it was being rolled out here.

In short: it is little wonder many looked on with scepticism. Fair enough, they took a chance and the real world data on older groups looks to be fruitful. But that was a gamble that wasn't warranted by the trials. Let's not forget that.
 
Hospital figures - 175 deaths were announced today, down 24 on yesterday and down 38 on last Friday. 132 deaths were in English hospitals, down 27 on yesterday and down 42 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 164.14

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 175 deaths were announced today, down 6 on yesterday and down 61 on last Friday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 154.57

For the 60 day cut off, 357 deaths were announced today, up 80 on yesterday and down 55 on last Friday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 274.71
 
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