Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

Exact same symptoms my ma had. She was fine after a couple of days.

Apart from the beard obviously.....

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Had my first jab Wednesday afternoon (AZ) and it’s knocked me sideways, just about feeling ok this morning. By late Wednesday evening I started shivering and feeling cold, then woke yesterday with a massive headache which lasted all day. I’m in pretty good health for my age, not allergic to anything, so was very surprised by this reaction. Bloody gnats piss lol

Yes lots of common side effects with both vaccines. The Pfizer one has a sore arm at the vaccination site which can become red, aches and pains all over at the joints and in the muscles, fever and headaches. My brother (a doctor in Newcastle) had the AZ one and had very similar to you.

It's important to note that although unpleasant and a little concerning they're not uncommon, with as many as one in ten experiencing such symptoms. They shouldn't be long lasting though but if they do persist then seek medical help.

Tbh they normally give you some printed sheets with common and slightly less common side effects listed. I hope you are now fully over it - it's well worth a bad day or two to get the protection it offers.

 

[tsubaki]

U.K. Vaccines.... 482K jabs given yesterday....totals 16,423,082 first dose, 573,724 second dose given .....Total jabs 16,996,806......

We should really start to see many more second doses, at least by the end of next week. If it’s only 650000 - 750000 by middle or end of March, we are going to be running a huge risk.

 

[Deckard2049]

Not according Pizfer or World health organisation.

Can get you data and research that paracetamol is effective measure of treating cancer, that's how it goes.

It's been sad state of affairs that the UK has now engaged itself in politicalized science... It won't end, maybe not with this pandemic, but a precedent has been set now and a line crossed that took many scandals deaths and lives ruined to draw in the first place.

Is this the same WHO who said this:



Why is not possible for our scientists (note the word scientists, not government) to actually have some faith placed in them?

 

[davek]

Urging caution around any reopening, the infectious diseases expert Dr Mike Tildesley told BBC Breakfast:

"We do know any form of reopening will cause the R number to go up so that needs very very careful monitoring. The vaccination campaign is going very, very well ... but where we need to be careful is if we open too quickly and don’t allow the vaccination programme to help us along the way, we run the issue of things resurging a little bit."

Prof Neil Ferguson, whose data modelling led to the first UK lockdown, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that the “downside of taking bigger risks is you risk having to lock down again which is even more disruptive economically and socially”.

 

[COYBL25]

No. I called them murderers because we have 120,000 people dead in this country, and a large proportion of those deaths are down to their decisions. I call them out as the willing tools of corporate interets for wanting to rush through a school reopening programme in a 'big bang' way. That's what Johnson wants. They indulge in social murder, which is a charge that has been made against them, and that could be brought against this government in a court of law, as I understand it.

The school issue in NI and Scotland is different to England. In NI the public health agency there reveal transmission amongst primary kids to be not significant. In Scotland there will be a gradual and staggered return even within the primary school level. In short, they seem to be taking it more cautiously than the schedule Johnson wants - under pressure from forces within the Tory Party. If they reopen for all primary school age with transmission among that age group at a high level guess what happens to the overall levels of transmission currrenlty going down...yes, they start to rise again. But the Tories dont give a flying one, they just want their mates in big business to get their doors open again and start trading and they'll tell veryone the vaccines will take care of it.

I do find it strange you want to defend this government though. Why are you doing that?

So to summarise :

England = Bad

Wales, N.Ireland and Scotland = Good

 

[davek]

Moan, moan, moan...bloody hell Dave, if they drove to your house and gave you the vaccine in your living room, from a golden syringe with your name on you’d complain they let the cold air in upon arrival.....

I know. It's not as if this government have overseen the deaths of 120,000 people - the worst per capita fatality rate from Covid19 in the world - is it?

What am I moaning about?

 

[davek]

So to summarise :

England = Bad

Wales, N.Ireland and Scotland = Good

As said, I have no idea why you support this government.

 

[davek]

Interesting on gyms from Drakeford:

The advice that I have seen from our scientific community is that the Kent variant, which is so much more transmissible, makes gyms a more challenging sector to reopen than before the Kent variant took hold. So, I’m afraid there isn’t a prospect that gyms and leisure centres and so on will open by the middle of March, and it may be some while after that before we can safely return to doing so, at least indoors and in the conventional way.

I'd imagine the same can be said about pubs and restaurants: enclosed spaces with people in close proximity and spending a lot of time in there.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Interesting on gyms from Drakeford:

The advice that I have seen from our scientific community is that the Kent variant, which is so much more transmissible, makes gyms a more challenging sector to reopen than before the Kent variant took hold. So, I’m afraid there isn’t a prospect that gyms and leisure centres and so on will open by the middle of March, and it may be some while after that before we can safely return to doing so, at least indoors and in the conventional way.

I'd imagine the same can be said about pubs and restaurants: enclosed spaces with people in close proximity and spending a lot of time in there.

Nothing can reopen then?

 

[COYBL25]

As said, I have no idea why you support this government.

It hasn`t even been announced when the English kids will be going back to school, yet you`re still screaming MURDERERS over something that hasn`t even happened.

Whilst at same time creaming your kecks over the Welsh and Northern Irish governments, who ARE sending some of their kids back to school THIS MONDAY.

So, by your rationale, the Irish and Welsh kids are somehow immune to infection and passing it on, based purely and simply on nothing more than they`re not pox ridden English children lol

 

[COYBL25]

Nothing can reopen then?

No, just the things that he despises, which is pretty much everything that brings a modicum of pleasure to peoples lives.

 

[Moomin]

Nothing can reopen then?

We have to make sure we get it right this time compared to last year.

The vaccination rollout looks to be working well so we have light at the end of the tunnel.

But, we still need to be prepared and have a working track and trace system just in case for new variations.

 

[Neiler]

Had my first jab Wednesday afternoon (AZ) and it’s knocked me sideways, just about feeling ok this morning. By late Wednesday evening I started shivering and feeling cold, then woke yesterday with a massive headache which lasted all day. I’m in pretty good health for my age, not allergic to anything, so was very surprised by this reaction. Bloody gnats piss lol

Don’t know if it’s a use to anyone here, but anecdotally here during our staff roll out, a lot have said taking paracetamol before and after the Jabs (if your ok to do so and as advised) and hydrating yourself before and after the jab, helps with to limit impact of expierenceing possible side effects.

I wish I’d known it at the time...!

 

[peteblue]

We have to make sure we get it right this time compared to last year.

The vaccination rollout looks to be working well so we have light at the end of the tunnel.

But, we still need to be prepared and have a working track and trace system just in case for new variations.

I think you’ll find that Dave has switched it off......