Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[navidson]

Interesting on gyms from Drakeford:

The advice that I have seen from our scientific community is that the Kent variant, which is so much more transmissible, makes gyms a more challenging sector to reopen than before the Kent variant took hold. So, I’m afraid there isn’t a prospect that gyms and leisure centres and so on will open by the middle of March, and it may be some while after that before we can safely return to doing so, at least indoors and in the conventional way.

I'd imagine the same can be said about pubs and restaurants: enclosed spaces with people in close proximity and spending a lot of time in there.

You'd love that wouldn't you?

Believe it or not - some people like doing things that you don't

I'm not arsed about schools opening but I understand that some people are desperate for them to

 

[BlueToff]

We have to make sure we get it right this time compared to last year.

The vaccination rollout looks to be working well so we have light at the end of the tunnel.

But, we still need to be prepared and have a working track and trace system just in case for new variations.

I'd rather see another 4 weeks of this lockdown than scupper it all by going out too early.

I think they'll send primary kids back on March 8th, though, and golf courses will be opening too (they did in mid-May last year). Don't really see a problem with the latter. I don't play golf but as far as leisure activities go it's something that you can do in a pair very easily and is no different to going on a walk really. I've just been round one of the local courses today on a walk and they were getting it all prepped so I think that seems likely.

If it's those two things from March 8th, then an aim to return to tiers around Easter, with schools opening up after the holidays, it's probably a sensible approach.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I reckon the constant moaning of @davek and his ilk completely turned people away from Labour so all of this hardship that the UK is going through is his fault!

 

[peteblue]

I'd rather see another 4 weeks of this lockdown than scupper it all by going out too early.

I think they'll send primary kids back on March 8th, though, and golf courses will be opening too (they did in mid-May last year). Don't really see a problem with the latter. I don't play golf but as far as leisure activities go it's something that you can do in a pair very easily and is no different to going on a walk really. I've just been round one of the local courses today on a walk and they were getting it all prepped so I think that seems likely.

If it's those two things from March 8th, then an aim to return to tiers around Easter, with schools opening up after the holidays, it's probably a sensible approach.

I don’t want to see any of these ‘tiers’ again. London tier 2 while our area was lumped in with a whole county in tier 3 was more aggravating than everyone being in lockdown.....

 

[roydo]

I don’t want to see any of these ‘tiers’ again. London tier 2 while our area was lumped in with a whole county in tier 3 was more aggravating than everyone being in lockdown.....

If they had explained the reasoning, as in, it was down to what hospital you were near, not the actuality in your town, it would have been easier to understand/tolerate.

As it was, we had to work that out.

But yeah, tiers didnt really work did they?

 

[peteblue]

If they had explained the reasoning, as in, it was down to what hospital you were near, not the actuality in your town, it would have been easier to understand/tolerate.

As it was, we had to work that out.

But yeah, tiers didnt really work did they?

Hopefully the vaccine rollout will take care of this........

 

[roydo]

Hopefully the vaccine rollout will take care of this........

Lets hope so. Some decent news today from real data, (not lab stuff), about both jabs being pretty good at trimming transmission by about 70%. So protection and less spread. Double Bubble.

 

[peteblue]

 

[BlueToff]

I don’t want to see any of these ‘tiers’ again. London tier 2 while our area was lumped in with a whole county in tier 3 was more aggravating than everyone being in lockdown.....

Well I've been in Tier 3 since the end of October so I know it's crap.

But just because they cocked up by putting London into T2 (a self-serving move that not one MP called out at the time), the tier system around me has worked in keeping rates consistently below the UK average since November.

 

[COYBL25]

I don’t want to see any of these ‘tiers’ again. London tier 2 while our area was lumped in with a whole county in tier 3 was more aggravating than everyone being in lockdown.....

Steve Rotherham aka the Tory Poodle was on the local news this morning stating something similar.

He said that when Liverpool was in Tier 2, all it did was encourage people from other areas to come into the city at the weekend and the inevitable shutting down of the city’s hospitality industry.

 

[BlueToff]

If they had explained the reasoning, as in, it was down to what hospital you were near, not the actuality in your town, it would have been easier to understand/tolerate.

As it was, we had to work that out.

But yeah, tiers didnt really work did they?

I'm just going off what they said was the plan back in January.

But like I've said, rates around me have never really spiked. It's just stayed consistent. It's been dead boring but it's worked to an extent..

Hopefully with the vaccine there isn't such a need for it, or the whole country is tiered - so coffee shops etc allowed to open before pubs. Stuff like that.

I'm gagging for a pint, but it's a crap experience going to a pub if it's like it was in September, so I'd rather just see them hold out for a few more weeks

 

[peteblue]

 

[Barnfred 55]

Interesting on gyms from Drakeford:

The advice that I have seen from our scientific community is that the Kent variant, which is so much more transmissible, makes gyms a more challenging sector to reopen than before the Kent variant took hold. So, I’m afraid there isn’t a prospect that gyms and leisure centres and so on will open by the middle of March, and it may be some while after that before we can safely return to doing so, at least indoors and in the conventional way.

I'd imagine the same can be said about pubs and restaurants: enclosed spaces with people in close proximity and spending a lot of time in there.

Music to your ears Dave?

TBH gyms and pubs were never opening as early as March. Best hope there is outdoor only sometime in April

 

[Barnfred 55]

No, just the things that he despises, which is pretty much everything that brings a modicum of pleasure to peoples lives.

So Goodison can open up next week then?

 

[Barnfred 55]

We have to make sure we get it right this time compared to last year.

The vaccination rollout looks to be working well so we have light at the end of the tunnel.

But, we still need to be prepared and have a working track and trace system just in case for new variations.

In fairness the scientists seem to be doing great work identifying variants and doing mass testing in those areas. Not sure any other countries are so advanced in that area