Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

In fairness the scientists seem to be doing great work identifying variants and doing mass testing in those areas. Not sure any other countries are so advanced in that area

That isn't test, track, trace and isolate though - its examining test results, which is what every country is doing (albeit without the rather false emphasis on different variant types that our media has been encouraged to adopt).

The key difference, and it is really noticeable, is how little information we have about how and where people are being infected and when and where clusters of infection are starting; countries with a working system can (and have, repeatedly and early on in the pandemic) tracked it down to a particular person or premises and put measures in place quickly enough to stop it before large-scale measures need to be adopted. We on the other hand seem to be only able to put it down to towns or cities, late enough that it makes it much more likely spread will have already happened outside those areas.

Our system is still not fit for purpose, and if it isn't fixed we as a country are not going to be as safe as we should be. If we emerge from this without one, it should be a scandal.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Where do you get 20% from?

An estimate? How many pubs have substantial outdoor space? Not many in any city or town. Country pubs etc are a different matter and some may be ok. Barely any of the pubs in liverpool city centre have more than a couple of outdoor tables making outdoor service unprofitable. Our weather is also regularly pretty poor in April/May.

 

[summerisle]

Where do you get 20% from?

COVID-19: 29,000 pubs will stay closed even if outdoor service allowed in April, says trade body

The British Beer & Pub Association says only around 17% of pubs will be able to open but still may struggle to break even.

news.sky.com

 

[COYBL25]

You support Johnson's government.

Still haven't heard you say otherwise.

It`s not a question of supporting any government, Northern Irish, Welsh, English or anyone else.

It`s about you, yet again trying to pass off blatant conjecture and lies as fact, all to suit your hysterical agenda.

The trick is, knowing when to stop digging.

You really have become a parody account.

Ffs, you were that desperate to back up your lunacy, you posted an article from the Mail the other day lol

 

[Wizard]

Alongside the promising news about Pfizer's ongoing efficacy after 1 dose, they have also discovered it can now be stored in regular medical freezers meaning its use can be more widespread around the World which is great news, especially for poorer countries who can't afford large scale specialist storage facilities.

"Separately, the vaccine, which has been authorized in the U.S., the U.K., the EU and elsewhere, can be stored and transported at between minus 25 and minus 15 degrees Celsius, or minus 13 and 5 degrees Fahrenheit—similar to a consumer freezer—Pfizer and BioNTech said. Currently, the vaccine’s labels say it must be stored at between minus 80 and minus 60 degrees Celsius, requiring sophisticated equipment."

Some Covid-19 Vaccines Are Effective After One Dose, Can Be Stored in Normal Freezers, Data Show

In a win for global vaccination goals, the BioNTech-Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine is shown to generate a strong response with one dose and to maintain potency in standard freezers for two weeks.

www.wsj.com

 

[toffee82]

How many pubs and restaurants can feasibly open with outdoor only service? Maybe 20% of the sector?

I'd love it if they pedestrianised more areas and increased outdoor seating.

South Road in Waterloo, Lark Lane etc.

 

[davek]

An estimate? How many pubs have substantial outdoor space? Not many in any city or town. Country pubs etc are a different matter and some may be ok. Barely any of the pubs in liverpool city centre have more than a couple of outdoor tables making outdoor service unprofitable. Our weather is also regularly pretty poor in April/May.

So you dont know. IMO the vast majority have some space to serve outdoors, some more than others. They can get revenue in the warm weather.

Those that cant, cant. That's just the way it is.

 

[davek]

It`s not a question of supporting any government, Northern Irish, Welsh, English or anyone else.

It`s about you, yet again trying to pass off blatant conjecture and lies as fact, all to suit your hysterical agenda.

The trick is, knowing when to stop digging.

You really have become a parody account.

You're ridiculous. I take the opposite view to you: I say people should stay safe and be protected; you say we cant live like this forever (as if that's my view). But that makes mine a "parody account" and yours what - responsible?

All you do is set up a straw man to justify your own frustration. Everyone can see it.

 

[davek]

I'd love it if they pedestrianised more areas and increased outdoor seating.

South Road in Waterloo, Lark Lane etc.

This is what societies do and have to do: adapt.

Indoor drinking and dining has to be in the past.

 

[roydo]

This is what societies do and have to do: adapt.

Indoor drinking and dining has to be in the past.

Why?

 

[davek]

Why?

Because for the forseeable it will represent a danger to us.

 

[COYBL25]

You're ridiculous. I take the opposite view to you: I say people should stay safe and be protected; you say we cant live like this forever (as if that's my view). But that makes mine a "parody account" and yours what - responsible?

All you do is set up a straw man to justify your own frustration. Everyone can see it.

Yet, here you are, nearly 24hrs later, still desperately trying to deflect from the fact that you got caught out ( again ) making stuff up about schools lol

I rest my case.

 

[COYBL25]

This is what societies do and have to do: adapt.

Indoor drinking and dining has to be in the past.

lol

 

[navidson]

This is what societies do and have to do: adapt.

Indoor drinking and dining has to be in the past.

Well it won't be - So you'll just have to remain furious with the world whilst the rest of us get on with it

 

[roydo]

Because for the forseeable it will represent a danger to us.

The forseeable?

What do you think that means, bearing in mind you said eating inside will be in the past?