Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Neiler]

Conversely, the evidence that it's worked is that there is so far no evidence that it hasn't worked.

And hang on, why are they suddenly saying 6 weeks??

Up until now, it's been 3 weeks. Or is it just because Denmark and France went with 6 weeks, so that's alright?

I think they took a risk. I'm not sure I agree with it, but I see why they did it. So far, despite all the outcry (which has now changed from 3 weeks to 6 weeks - and Pfizer all along insisted that it had to be 3 weeks btw, until now apparently), there's no evidence of it not working. If there is, then we'll know about it and they can all say 'I told you so' and it'll be crap. But as it is, that hasn't happened.

Not sure he’s recommending six weeks mate, I think he’s giving his opinion on max gap before concern of the vaccine being effective.

I’m not disagreeing mate on there being no evidence but do we know anything for certain, be it good or bad?

Are figures being kept and published on people who have been vaccinated with one dose, or the 12 week gap and have incidence of infection, or who may have died in between?

There may be 0 there may be some, it might be positive or not so positive, I just haven’t seen a source for any study or data on it.

If there is 0 it would be great if this was known, it would give great confidence and if it is proven successful I think other countries could benefit from solid info and science.

 

[BlueToff]

Not sure he’s recommending six weeks mate, I think he’s giving his opinion on max gap before concern of the vaccine being effective.

I’m not disagreeing mate on there being no evidence but do we know anything for certain, be it good or bad?

Are figures being kept and published on people who have been vaccinated with one dose, or the 12 week gap and have incidence of infection, or who may have died in between?

There may be 0 there may be some, it might be positive or not so positive, I just haven’t seen a source for any study or data on it.

If there is 0 it would be great if this was known, it would give great confidence and if it is proven successful I think other countries could benefit from solid info and science.

I just figure with infection rates and deaths falling, it's working - combined with lockdown obviously.

I'm just sick of seeing the same warnings and calls for evidence when they know full well the decision was made - as explained by the CMOs - based on previous vaccines and a calculated risk. I'm honestly sick of it- the sky is falling in, this is the worst thing you could do etc etc - yet so far, nothing.

If in 4 weeks' time 1000s of people who had their Pfizer date pushed back are ill, then we'll know it was the wrong call. But him asking for evidence he knows there isn't any of is just creating another negative headline on a roll out which, frankly, is going well, just as it is now in Europe too.

Yes, I hope they release the evidence soon when they have it.

 

[Neiler]

I just figure with infection rates and deaths falling, it's working - combined with lockdown obviously.

I'm just sick of seeing the same warnings and calls for evidence when they know full well the decision was made - as explained by the CMOs - based on previous vaccines and a calculated risk. I'm honestly sick of it- the sky is falling in, this is the worst thing you could do etc etc - yet so far, nothing.

If in 4 weeks' time 1000s of people who had their Pfizer date pushed back are ill, then we'll know it was the wrong call. But him asking for evidence he knows there isn't any of is just creating another negative headline on a roll out which, frankly, is going well, just as it is now in Europe too.

Yes, I hope they release the evidence soon when they have it.

I think we’re all hoping it’s good mate! Sometimes you just got to make the best decisions, with the best information for the right reasons, if you believe that’s the case even if things go for you or against you, you can deal with it!

 

[BlueToff]

I think we’re all hoping it’s good mate! Sometimes you just got to make the best decisions, with the best information for the right reasons, if you believe that’s the case even if things go for you or against you, you can deal with it!

I hope the risk pays off. As I've said before, I'd have just stuck with the 3-week jab, but then I'm sure you'd get some people asking why we weren't extending it like Denmark and France, etc.

Just want people to get dosed up as quickly as possible and hopefully be safer.

 

[Neiler]

I hope the risk pays off. As I've said before, I'd have just stuck with the 3-week jab, but then I'm sure you'd get some people asking why we weren't extending it like Denmark and France, etc.

Just want people to get dosed up as quickly as possible and hopefully be safer.

That’s the thing really mate, the broad science here is no one is safe until everyone is safe, that’s global, I know during lockdown everyone thinks locally, but ultimately she’s a global problem and until we get around everywhere with a roll out we are just patching leaks at home.

We should be willing this to be going well everywhere!

 

[grandjoeblue]

Has this lockdown only been on for about 7 weeks? Feels like forever.

Realistically we're about half way through at best before anything reopens aren't we?

 

[mill]

Sounds a bit Nazi that.

tbh I’m all for eugenics, but can it be on the basis of intelligence instead?

 

[COYBL25]

What did you need to do going in mate? Did they send something to show the day before? Getting mine on Sunday at the Pit but not sure how it works

If you`re going to a mass vaccination site, like Sint Ellens rugby club, it`s dead easy.

You should have a QR code attached to the email.

You`ll be directed to a reception area, where they`ll scan your QR code, you`ll then be directed to a room / area where the vaccinations are being done.

There`ll be a reception area, where you`ll be asked to show your QR code again and you`ll be asked for ID - a bank card will do.

You`ll then go to a little waiting area, where you`ll wait until there`s a booth ready for you to be vaccinated.

Once there is, you`ll be asked general health questions and asked to show your QR code ( again !! )

It sounds like a load of messing around, but it really isn`t, I was in and out in 5 mins.

 

[Tubey]

Has this lockdown only been on for about 7 weeks? Feels like forever.

Realistically we're about half way through at best before anything reopens aren't we?

It's because it was only a month after Lockdown 2. So it's exacerbated as for Lockdown 1 we had the 'summer off'.

Regarding how long til we're out of it...

COVID-19 lockdown: Revealed - Whitehall plans for rapid reopening of shops, pubs and restaurants

A blueprint suggests further education students could be back in mid-April, with non-essential shops to reopen at the same time.

news.sky.com

This will be correct. You're right that we're about halfway through, but as said a few times now, the political pressure and will to reopen things when the numbers are negligible will be massive, so from 8 March things will move very quickly.

 

[Tubey]

I hate the British Government.

This is the least surprising thing I've ever read on the internet.

 

[roydo]

Has this lockdown only been on for about 7 weeks? Feels like forever.

Realistically we're about half way through at best before anything reopens aren't we?

Start our 54th week on Saturday.

 

[Billy Dean]

 

[Tubey]

That's literally not true. It was signed in May, with the additional paperwork completed by August. And it isn't news that it was best efforts for the UK; it was never stated otherwise. The difference is it was best efforts with a set supply chain that was different to the EU's.

Funding and manufacturing boost for UK vaccine programme

UK’s top researchers rapidly working to find a coronavirus vaccine will benefit from £84 million of new government funding.

www.gov.uk

The tone of that tweet/article and her follow-ups indicate extreme bias and bitterness and a complete misrepresentation of what happened.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Not sure he’s recommending six weeks mate, I think he’s giving his opinion on max gap before concern of the vaccine being effective.

I’m not disagreeing mate on there being no evidence but do we know anything for certain, be it good or bad?

Are figures being kept and published on people who have been vaccinated with one dose, or the 12 week gap and have incidence of infection, or who may have died in between?

There may be 0 there may be some, it might be positive or not so positive, I just haven’t seen a source for any study or data on it.

If there is 0 it would be great if this was known, it would give great confidence and if it is proven successful I think other countries could benefit from solid info and science.

I think that data will come out in due course. It's a little bit early yet given the 12 week strategy only started just over a month ago. There's probably only 2/3 weeks of data to work with so far

 

[anxiouswarrior]

The Defenders of the Imperialst Capitalist Establishment keep asking where does the NHS money come from , yes indeed taxation mainly from the workers millions of them on zero hours garbage , yet this money taken from the workers a lot of it has been given by the Spiv Government and handed to their Private cowboy contract firms who completely failed with the such potty schemes as track and trace and moonshot and game changers invented by a fat overweight tory who was born with a silver foot in his mouth