McBain
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Too right cobber
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Too right cobber
Billy Dean
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Both my old folks, in the 65-70 age range, have got their first jabs this weekend and 2nd in late April/early May in SE England. From afar it looks like the NHS are managing this brilliantly.
Personally I think it's better to just keep those places shut for another month or so, though.
Coffee shops, cafe's etc, makes sense for them to be able to open with outdoor seating come some time in April, but give it another month or so with the pubs, just to be safe.
Also means that if coffee shops etc are open then, in theory, there's more money there to support places that can't open until later in the year.
Thing is, it was always going to happen, and Aus will deal with it, by lockdowns, but through your autumn and winter there'll be regions in and out of lockdown because of little spikes in the case rates.
Even if a lockdown gets it under control right now, then you can guarantee that the virus will still be in someone or some people who are asymptomatic, so would have no idea they have it, but can still spread it, so the virus just remains, dormant, until it infects people who show symptoms... and then lockdown again, and on and on and on.
The sooner you guys can get the vaccines rolled out, and you'll be able to do it quickly because the pandemic has been so well-managed over there and in NZ, then you really will be able to get back to 'normal'. I still don't see the trade-off of snap lockdowns or NZ shutting off their borders to tourists etc 'normality'.
You know what though, by and large, he was right about who the virus threatened - he's now just ignoring that when someone suggests that when those people are fully vaccinated we should probably put lockdowns in the past.
McBain
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We are completely back to normal to be fair apart from obvious businesses dealing in Tourism. I have no need to travel while this thing rages, and its only when the rest of the World wakes up to the fact that a vaccine is only a temporary fix that it will be beaten. Im reading theres at least 5 different strains now that they’ll have to reconfigire vaccines for.
Victoria has just gone into lockdown because of 13 cases.
People have to stay shut in their hotel rooms for 14 days upon arrival in the country.
That is not 'normal', mate. But, I do agree it is, right now, the best way of managing it.
Why is a vaccine only a temporary fix?
The fix is to achieve herd immunity. The vaccine plays a large part in that. In the meantime, countries need track and trace up to isolate spikes, but really, as soon as enough people are vaccinated in a population, the danger is limited to the same danger that any other illness poses, and that means the health systems aren't overwhelmed.
So no, the vaccine isn't a temporary fix. It's a key part of the long-term solution, and the sooner everywhere has enough of it, the better.
Deckard2049
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Victoria's coronavirus lockdown sabotages terminally ill Australian man's year-long fight to get home
John Jobber’s flight home, after being stuck in Ireland, will not be accepted due to lockdown restrictions
I really don’t see how you can say Australia is back to normal. This is a zoonotic and 99% likely to be endemic virus globally. It’s not going to be beaten out of existence. When Australia opens their borders they can claim normality.
davek
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August 5th 2020
I dont have to make things up.
McBain
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If you travel here you quarantine. I really would have shut off anyone coming into the country from anywhere the virus is out of control like Britain. If you get vaccinated it doesnt stop you getting another strain?
Thats not a long term solution at all, its a short term fix with having to constantly reinocculated, suely?
The vaccinations stop serious illness - which is the entire point of them. Then the illness becomes completely manageable because you're not getting large numbers of people going to hospital, so the people that may end up in hospital from it can, in turn, get more focused care and attention and, hopefully, survive.
Not everybody will have to be re-inocculated. It'll be treated similarly to the flu jab. Millions of people don't get the flu jab every year because they have no need to. People who do need it get it every year in the winter to give their immune systems an extra boost against that season's variant.
Are you suggesting that quarantining is actually the long-term solution? You're going to get loads of people visiting aren't you, if they have to quarantine for 14 days? And even then, there's no guarantee it fully works because, as you're seeing now, there's always a risk of one person working at those facilities picking it up, and spreading it on, or some people isolating for the entire period and still having the virus without showing any signs of it.
The vaccine is absolutely key, because it's crucial to herd immunity, which is the solution. Unless you think it's normal for regions half the size of Europe to go into lockdown for 10 cases.
McBain
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Victoria's coronavirus lockdown sabotages terminally ill Australian man's year-long fight to get home
John Jobber’s flight home, after being stuck in Ireland, will not be accepted due to lockdown restrictionswww.theguardian.com
I really don’t see how you can say Australia is back to normal. This is a zoonotic and 99% likely to be endemic virus globally. It’s not going to be beaten out of existence. When Australia opens their borders they can claim normality.
Dont really care about overseas travellers trying to get in. Keep them out. Every single case has come from overseas, and Aussies complaining anout not being able to get back in should have done so when they had the chance last year.
Victoria recorded 1 case in the last 24 hours. NSW and its millions of people 0 locally aquired cases - all from quarantine.
I get what you are saying but I go about my day as I ever have*.
*crosses fingers
Victoria's coronavirus lockdown sabotages terminally ill Australian man's year-long fight to get home
John Jobber’s flight home, after being stuck in Ireland, will not be accepted due to lockdown restrictions
I really don’t see how you can say Australia is back to normal. This is a zoonotic and 99% likely to be endemic virus globally. It’s not going to be beaten out of existence. When Australia opens their borders they can claim normality.
Australia and NZ of 'western' nations, have the most form of internal normality, no doubt about it. I'm envious.
But it's still not normal. It's still not normal for people to quarantine for 2 weeks (and doesn't guarantee success as we're seeing). It's still not normal for NZ to have shut off its borders to every nation other than Aus (I may be wrong on that but that was the case initially was it not?). It's not normal for snap, region-wide lockdowns for a few cases.
All of the above measures are working right now, but to suggest they are not short-term solutions, but the vaccine is, is a bit strange.
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