Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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The media have been absolute cretins throughout this pandemic......
Yes they have backed bozo to the hilt, and blamed everyone else...where is the uproar about chumocracy?
why did it take a professional well paid footballer to make the government do yet another U turn?
Eat out to help out.....what a fecking disaster.
Backed Cummings.

Billionaire owned print media what the feck did you expect?
 
That's how you've chosen to take it, yet left out Whitty making a crucial point that the vaccines - and this is based on how vaccines have worked in the past against almost every illness - will likely still protect against serious illness or death, even if they do not fully protect against infection. They won't know for sure just yet, but based on previous experience, which is all they can go off at the moment.

That is the point of a vaccine. And that will help the health systems ensure they are not overrun.

“Likely to protect against serious illness or death”, “but won’t know until later”.

No sale here, I’ll be staying in the bunker until after later.
 
This would/is wonderful, hopefully this explored more and if results hold up, ramped up and rolled out.
Hopefully mate, I remember the vaccine to help sickness in pregnancy in the 60s, developed by Eli Lily... Thalidomide..that went well my dad worked for them at their Speke base in the finance dept but he couldn't say anything against the company at the time for fear of losing his job.
Hope they have changed....
 
Let's take the last couple of days. Yesterday the WHO tells us all that PCR tests massively overstate positives and they tell health authorities to adopt more rigorous testing methods. No media reaction. Today SAGE come up with a suggestion that a COVID variant might produce a higher mortality rate. Media reaction? We're doomed.

Its been known for a while that PCR tests can detect the dead virus and give a positive result when the person is not infectious anymore.

Can you link up that report please?

All I've seen on the BBC website is the variant may be more deadly.
 
What kind of jobs do you think I'm on about?

I have told you before that construction and infrastructure - whether you like it or not David - is a key industry. However, that doesn't mean people should be going to sites and/or offices unless they absolutely have to.

The government's guidance to those companies is exactly the same as it was in spring so why is it not being followed like it was then?

I think they've got tons of stuff wrong. They're next to hopeless mostly. But there has to be an element of personal responsibilty.

What are the government to do about a family of fat dobbers treating a trip to ASDA as their family day out?

Edit: Apologies if that came across as pedantic Dave, but you've just resorted to the old 'you're a Tory' argument, there.
There's a lot of jobs in the retail sector which are face to face which are allowed to be open in this spurious lockdown than were in the last one (and even that lockdown was nowhere as stringent as those that took place in Spain, France, Italy).

I didn't say you were a Tory, I said - in so many words - that you weren't holding them to account and prefer to share the blame (or hand the blame) to other actors.

This is why we primarily have governments: to keep the population secure. That means that THEY take responsibility.
 
There's a lot of jobs in the retail sector which are face to face which are allowed to be open in this spurious lockdown than were in the last one (and even that lockdown was nowhere as stringent as those that took place in Spain, France, Italy).

I didn't say you were a Tory, I said - in so many words - that you weren't holding them to account and prefer to share the blame (or hand the blame) to other actors.

This is why we primarily have governments: to keep the population secure. That means that THEY take responsibility.

But I believe they are largely to blame. However, right now, people have been told to 'stay at home' - like they were in March - yet certain employers are making them go into work when they could easily work remotely, or certain people are choosing to go into work rather than work remotely. That's surely got to also fall on people as individuals too?

What jobs in the retail sector that are 'face to face' are currently ongoing? You can't go into a shop - unless you own or run it. You can go to Halfords and then do click and collect from certain places - again, all done with strict guidance in place that you have to adhere to.

Maybe there should be stricter guidance? Maybe it should be limited to one person per stop or whatever, and limit supermarkets to that one person (unless it's someone with their kid(s) or someone who they care for or whatever? Again though, couldn't the individual chains/stores take that action without the government instructing them to do so?
 
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