Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

“Likely to protect against serious illness or death”, “but won’t know until later”.

No sale here, I’ll be staying in the bunker until after later.

Oh fully get that, just saying, it wasn't all doom and gloom.

Whitty was asked about it and he said that based on the vast majority of previous vaccines, then the protection will still be enough even against new strains. However, until enough people are vaccinated around the world, we won't know for certain, so for now it's caution.

Caution is not the same as doom, though.

 

[davek]

But I believe they are largely to blame. However, right now, people have been told to 'stay at home' - like they were in March - yet certain employers are making them go into work when they could easily work remotely, or certain people are choosing to go into work rather than work remotely. That's surely got to also fall on people as individuals too?

What jobs in the retail sector that are 'face to face' are currently ongoing? You can't go into a shop - unless you own or run it. You can go to Halfords and then do click and collect from certain places - again, all done with strict guidance in place that you have to adhere to.

Maybe there should be stricter guidance? Maybe it should be limited to one person per stop or whatever, and limit supermarkets to that one person (unless it's someone with their kid(s) or someone who they care for or whatever? Again though, couldn't the individual chains/stores take that action without the government instructing them to do so?

Were the likes of Home and Bargain opened last time?

I still dont think you grasp the duty of a government and that they are failing to impose a tighter guideline on what can and cant be deemed essential. Yiu prefer to give them a free pass and blame business owners who want to do what they do.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Who is @davek ?
And why is he saying those things about you?

There is a good chance that each of us is a figment of his imagination.

 

[Brennan]

But I believe they are largely to blame. However, right now, people have been told to 'stay at home' - like they were in March - yet certain employers are making them go into work when they could easily work remotely, or certain people are choosing to go into work rather than work remotely. That's surely got to also fall on people as individuals too?

What jobs in the retail sector that are 'face to face' are currently ongoing? You can't go into a shop - unless you own or run it. You can go to Halfords and then do click and collect from certain places - again, all done with strict guidance in place that you have to adhere to.

Maybe there should be stricter guidance? Maybe it should be limited to one person per stop or whatever, and limit supermarkets to that one person (unless it's someone with their kid(s) or someone who they care for or whatever? Again though, couldn't the individual chains/stores take that action without the government instructing them to do so?

The government should be taking a harder stance against supermarkets, ensuring they enforce capacity limits and one way systems in store.

I went to the local Tesco Express the other day and it was a joke, about fifteen people ended up in the queue for the tills with a foot between each of them. That is down to too many people being let in, because the restrictions have been let go.

 

[bigjonny]

Were the likes of Home and Bargain opened last time?

I still dont think you grasp the duty of a government and that they are failing to impose a tighter guideline on what can and cant be deemed essential. Yiu prefer to give them a free pass and blame business owners who want to do what they do.

Yes they were, my son stacks the shelves etc. there. I’ve got him going to work, my wife works in the NHS and I’m sat at home all day.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Oh fully get that, just saying, it wasn't all doom and gloom.

Whitty was asked about it and he said that based on the vast majority of previous vaccines, then the protection will still be enough even against new strains. However, until enough people are vaccinated around the world, we won't know for certain, so for now it's caution.

Caution is not the same as doom, though.

This is why Pfizer and Moderna are not the answer.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Were the likes of Home and Bargain opened last time?

I still dont think you grasp the duty of a government and that they are failing to impose a tighter guideline on what can and cant be deemed essential. Yiu prefer to give them a free pass and blame business owners who want to do what they do.

Home Bargains, Poundland, B&M and One Below have pretty much stayed open throughout because they sell both essentials and non essentials, a handful of Poundlands in indoor shopping centres did close a few weeks back like

 

[Billy Dean]

Imagine that feeling, when we’ve reached herd immunity, and you can go into a crowded bar, gig, stadium, plane, without having to worry about it. Gonna be mental.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Imagine that feeling, when we’ve reached herd immunity, and you can go into a crowded bar, gig, stadium, plane, without having to worry about it. Gonna be mental.

A bit of positivity is good to see

 

[degsy]

The vaccines will work mate wouldnt worry about it. And even if it doesn't the virus will eventually become less deadly in the coming years.

Of that I've no doubt. But I think the Govt. and many of the voters still have their heads in the sand on the time scale back to a workable (Covid) normal.
I would wager there's plenty see it as - get my jab by June or July and off to sunny spain with the wife and kids.
Letting everybody and his brother go galivanting off Abroard really worked well last year

 

[Haydn]

All the hallmarks of this mob managing and manipulating the news agenda again. The lazy media is happily regurgitating their spoon fed lines for our consumption.

Ministers will discuss at a meeting on Monday whether to further tighten restrictions at UK borders, including the possibility of hotel quarantines for travellers, the BBC has been told.

What’s the betting that the “including the possibility of hotel quarantine” turns out to be handing arriving passengers a draconian Hands, Face, Space, Save the NHS leaflet ?

Hotel quarantine for UK arrivals to be discussed

Boris Johnson has not ruled out further action to secure the borders amid concerns over Covid variants.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[degsy]

Imagine that feeling, when we’ve reached herd immunity, and you can go into a crowded bar, gig, stadium, plane, without having to worry about it. Gonna be mental.

Dream on you crazy diamond

 

[BlueToff]

Were the likes of Home and Bargain opened last time?

I still dont think you grasp the duty of a government and that they are failing to impose a tighter guideline on what can and cant be deemed essential. Yiu prefer to give them a free pass and blame business owners who want to do what they do.

Home Bargains was open as far as i'm aware, yes - it's a supermarket chain

I don't prefer to give them a free pass.

 

[BlueToff]

This is why Pfizer and Moderna are not the answer.

No vaccine alone is but with all of them combined, we stand a chance

 

[BlueToff]

The government should be taking a harder stance against supermarkets, ensuring they enforce capacity limits and one way systems in store.

I went to the local Tesco Express the other day and it was a joke, about fifteen people ended up in the queue for the tills with a foot between each of them. That is down to too many people being let in, because the restrictions have been let go.

But again, boils down to the individual chains/stores doesn't it?

You didn't have police coming around in April checking how many people were in the store. It was just enforced by the store. So why isn't the same happening now?

The government isn't all seeing. There was never a law in March that only x amount of people were allowed in a shop. It was just the stores taking it upon themselves - so surely the same should be done now?