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Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Dunno mate, sure there's loads of possible reasons!
Bill Gates microchipping himself the idiot
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
My elderly uncle is now booked in for his first jab early February 
roydo
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Just watched the latest (UK) briefing.
And despite the reduction/levelling of infections, they were pretty frank that deaths will peak in a few weeks. They are also concerned that any tick ups of infections, from this still high base level, would be seriously bad news.
Cautiously optimistic that the single dose jabs will be really important in preventing that, as well as folk not being bell ends.
roydo
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I totally understand the logic.
But as it is, the scientists and that dont really know how the vaccines and possible new strains and transmission rates will be. They think, (hope), the data they have so far shows promise, but they do not know.
In a football sense, you are asking if Everton can be crowned champions after 3 games.
Again, something I've been saying all week (not that I'd want Whitty's job
).It's crap, but everything is a lag. Keep stressing, our peak spike in infections was 9th Jan. That's now 13 days ago, so I think deaths are probably going to peak in the next 7-10 days.
At least with the infections starting to show a drop - however slight, however gradual - it shows that the impact of lockdown we're in (even though I agree too many people/employers are taking advantage of loopholes in it atm) is starting to work. We then have the vaccine getting out asap. Just have to hope there's no supply issues.
Weirdly enough, for once Johnson didn't come across as a total blubbering idiot when answering the questions. Not that the bar was high, mind.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Because apparently the new variant is hitting all age groups....
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That was a genuinely worrying press conference, particularly the doubts on the efficacy of the jab.
But he says there is "more concern" about the susceptibility of the South African and Brazilian variants to vaccinations.
There are concerns about this, he says, adding that it is being studied at laboratories around the world.
The Daily Telegraph's Gordon Raynor raises a video he says has been posted by Health Secretary Matt Hancock aimed at travel agents, suggesting the South African variant is 50% less susceptible to vaccines than the original strain of the virus.
He asks whether this is correct and, if so, whether it will affect the government's approach to whether to tighten UK border controls.
The PM runs through the measures that the UK has in place, including the ban on direct flights from South Africa and "rigorous" obligations for people entering the UK in terms of quarantine and tests.
But he suggests "we may need to go further to protect our borders", saying the massive progress the UK is making in terms of vaccinations cannot be undermined.
If that is true about the new strains, I think the vaccines being the light at the end of the tunnel, might just be a false dawn.
But he says there is "more concern" about the susceptibility of the South African and Brazilian variants to vaccinations.
There are concerns about this, he says, adding that it is being studied at laboratories around the world.
The Daily Telegraph's Gordon Raynor raises a video he says has been posted by Health Secretary Matt Hancock aimed at travel agents, suggesting the South African variant is 50% less susceptible to vaccines than the original strain of the virus.
He asks whether this is correct and, if so, whether it will affect the government's approach to whether to tighten UK border controls.
The PM runs through the measures that the UK has in place, including the ban on direct flights from South Africa and "rigorous" obligations for people entering the UK in terms of quarantine and tests.
But he suggests "we may need to go further to protect our borders", saying the massive progress the UK is making in terms of vaccinations cannot be undermined.
If that is true about the new strains, I think the vaccines being the light at the end of the tunnel, might just be a false dawn.
Better to be cautious.
We'll have a better picture of it whenever the first 15m people have received their first dose (or indeed second one in some cases) - whether that's mid-Feb or the end of Feb.
Hopefully by then, we've got over the peak of the deaths too and have seen that sustained fall in infections, and then it can be a case of taking things with a bit of a brighter outlook.
For my own sanity I'm trying to just take things day by day, but realistically, if the vaccine roll out carries on at pace, if we see positive results against the new strains etc (which as the CMOs said will be found out globally not just in the UK), and we get lucky with the weather like we did last year, then we may be able to look at sometime in April or early May to start see some form of normality (I'm thinking along the lines of what we saw last summer).
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