Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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davek said:
www.theguardian.com

Watchdog finds serious faults in some English care homes' Covid defences

Care Quality Commission reports carers with virus being told to work in some homes, poor isolation and incorrect use of PPE
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Thanks Dave. For context the article discusses 14 homes in particular where they said there wasn't adequate staffing/testing going on.

14 homes out of a total of approx 15,000 in England.

Like I said Dave, only because it happens in one or two places doesn't mean it happens everywhere and I can only tell you from my sisters experience that they are doing everything as best they can.
 
maccavennie said:
Thanks Dave. For context the article discusses 14 homes in particular where they said there wasn't adequate staffing/testing going on.

14 homes out of a total of approx 15,000 in England.

Like I said Dave, only because it happens in one or two places doesn't mean it happens everywhere and I can only tell you from my sisters experience that they are doing everything as best they can.
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That doesn't mean that if 14 were opicked up on all the rest were ok. The same pressures are hitting all those care homes and owners will try it on in that way. Add that to the government's failure to protect hospitals again so they dont have to discharge patients possibly still with covid19 and you get a fatality rate like we're seeing.

It's happening. It's just a matter of understanding where the breeches are coming from. We all know who is to balme though: the private sector and the government. The care workers and residents are innocents being let down.
 
adi dassler said:
The criteria definitely needs sorting - it's too open to abuse. The Govt guidelines state that a child with at least one parent or carer who is a 'critical worker' can attend school. In this scenario the second parent may be furloughed or not working and decide to put the child in school, increasing the numbers when they could be schooled at home.

But employers also have a lot to answer for. At the end of the day if your employer is continuing to operate and you're expected to work to remain in employment then you're going to do that and take up one of these key worker places aren't you. My situation is a perfect example. Looking at the Government guidance my wife is a critical worker (nurse) whilst I am not (construction). However as you know construction has remained open and so I have no choice but to go to work and therefore my child takes a school place. If I was allowed to work from home (which I should be able to in the job I have) I would potentially be able to facilitate home school for my child also, as I did in the first lockdown.

For me school places should only be for children with all parents / carers as critical workers. At least until we get control of this again.
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We've spoke about this before but you should have a choice as to whether you go to work or not as don't you work in an office?

There should be no reason you can't work from home in that job unless you've not got software etc - though if you're a permanent member of staff your business should invest in that.

It's ludicrous that the employer is making you come in but that's on them, and you need to take it up with your manager. You have every right to refuse to go in if you don't think it's safe.

I agree on the schools.
 
davek said:
Well read to the posts on this thread and you should have no problem.

Read that one by @wainy above for instance, and many more like them.

Just to simply keep on stating "I dont get how it happens" is very strange. It's as though you've given up the will to understand.
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That makes sense with regards to increasing cases - but increasing deaths?

People are working - and you don't agree with it - we get it

BUT those working people aren't the ones dying - so either the workers are infecting their own vulnerable family members OR it isn't workers that are spreading the virus
 
BlueToff said:
We've spoke about this before but you should have a choice as to whether you go to work or not as don't you work in an office?

There should be no reason you can't work from home in that job unless you've not got software etc - though if you're a permanent member of staff your business should invest in that.

It's ludicrous that the employer is making you come in but that's on them, and you need to take it up with your manager. You have every right to refuse to go in if you don't think it's safe.

I agree on the schools.
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No mate i’m site based at the moment, though work in the offices there rather than out on site. We get leaned on heavily by the Project Manager and Operations Director to be there as they believe the team work more collaboratively in a face to face environment rather than some being at home. Whilst there is some truth in that it does fly against the official message as strictly speaking my job can be done from home.

The company know this goes on across all our sites but chooses to turn a blind eye imo.
 
adi dassler said:
No mate i’m site based at the moment, though work in the offices there rather than out on site. We get leaned on heavily by the Project Manager and Operations Director to be there as they believe the team work more collaboratively in a face to face environment rather than some being at home. Whilst there is some truth in that it does fly against the official message as strictly speaking my job can be done from home.

The company know this goes on across all our sites but chooses to turn a blind eye imo.
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Seems so strange.

The SME I work for is running 3 Civils projects atm, so 3 separate sites. Anything admin wise is being done from home - the project managers are obviously there but basically a skeleton team is being kept on and if people need to go, they do, and if not, they don’t. It shouldn’t be too hard.

End of the day I find it hard to say that construction and infrastructure isn’t essential - because it is - but unless you 100% need to be on that site to do something then right now you shouldn’t have to be
 
roydo said:
Most people are not in care homes though. I mean its like your obsession with pubs and that back in the day. Some most likely caught it going to one, but not the numbers we have seen since Christmas.

I literally dont understand how so many have copped it. As in, I dont get how so many have put themselves in a situation where they may.
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Nearly everyone ignored the rules.

the number of people who ‘quickly left on the Saturday night to get home’ down here was incredible. People living all over london. At uni all over the country. Mixing households more than they should have.

that’s after leaving london in tier two. Leaving all the shops open for a prolonged period.

as ever, they left everything too late so it had already spread and it was always going to take a while to get the numbers down purely because of rapidly it had spread in December.

plus plenty of people still aren’t following the rules.
 
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