Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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davek said:
Tests wont pick up on some, but carers will feel unwell. At that point the will to self isolate to be on the safe side comes up against material realities like getting their full wage. That will be one of the routes into the homnes for this virus. Others exist...as I said above: hospitals breaking under pressure are discharging care home residents again.
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Your generalising though that care workers will just ignore if they feel unwell in turn for wages.

They get tested weekly thats all they can do. If its positive they isolate. If its negative they work. There is no in between, its very clear.

My sister works on her shift with 5 other staff members and at some time or another they have all isolated through getting tested.

Hospitals will discharge anyone well enough to leave the hospital as well mate, that's always been the case. Beds are at a premium so if you can recover at home they'll send you home or sent back to a care home thats what they'll do.

There is no way of keeping a lid on this thing Dave, if we all do our bit it certainly helps but the only 100% exit plan is the vaccine. The sooner everyone has it the better.
 
Toast said:
Halfords sell bikes for excercise.
No problem with that being open.

No need for a little coffee shop being open really is there ?
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Well, there isn't, but there is to the people who run that business and have been doing so safely in exactly the same circumstances for the past three months. That's how long they've been doing TO for as they are now.

They just run it themselves - they're a couple (so same household) and have one employee working at a time.

If they let Starbucks be open, then they have to let them don't they.

If it was clearly a massive contributor to spreading it then fair enough, but let's face it, if they're doing what they're doing in the way they are, with people waiting outside, spaced out, wearing masks, then it's doing f all to contribute to the spread is it.
 
davek said:
Tests wont pick up on some, but carers will feel unwell. At that point the will to self isolate to be on the safe side comes up against material realities like getting their full wage. That will be one of the routes into the homnes for this virus. Others exist...as I said above: hospitals breaking under pressure are discharging care home residents again.
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Dave, we know that loads of people have no symptoms.
 
maccavennie said:
Your generalising though that care workers will just ignore if they feel unwell in turn for wages.

They get tested weekly thats all they can do. If its positive they isolate. If its negative they work. There is no in between, its very clear.

My sister works on her shift with 5 other staff members and at some time or another they have all isolated through getting tested.

Hospitals will discharge anyone well enough to leave the hospital as well mate, that's always been the case. Beds are at a premium so if you can recover at home they'll send you home or sent back to a care home thats what they'll do.

There is no way of keeping a lid on this thing Dave, if we all do our bit it certainly helps but the only 100% exit plan is the vaccine. The sooner everyone has it the better.
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He's conveniently ignoring that tons of people who get this literally have nothing wrong with them
 
adi dassler said:
The problem is obviously the amount of parents who are classing themselves as 'key workers'. My daughters school had 9 pupils in out of a class of 30 in the first lockdown. They now have 21 this time around. So either lots of parents have got themselves key worker positions in the past 10 months or the criteria has changed.
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Yeah then the criteria needs sorting.

But if you look at the advice now, it's exactly the same as it was in the spring. So it's again down to individual people to make better decisions?
 
BlueToff said:
Well, there isn't, but there is to the people who run that business and have been doing so safely in exactly the same circumstances for the past three months. That's how long they've been doing TO for as they are now.

They just run it themselves - they're a couple (so same household) and have one employee working at a time.

If they let Starbucks be open, then they have to let them don't they.

If it was clearly a massive contributor to spreading it then fair enough, but let's face it, if they're doing what they're doing in the way they are, with people waiting outside, spaced out, wearing masks, then it's doing f all to contribute to the spread is it.
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That’s the problem. This is meant to be a lockdown again, not like over the last few months restrictions.
The ‘well if there open, then we’re opening! ‘
A take away coffee isn’t key work.

Sorry, but it just isn’t.
 
My sister’s mother in law is a care worker and tested positive over the weekend, leaving my sister frustrated as she herself has just got over being positive and was due back at her school for meetings only to have to wfh because my niece had stayed with her on Friday, meaning she had to isolate and not go to school which also meant my mum couldn’t see her as planned yesterday
 
BlueToff said:
He's conveniently ignoring that tons of people who get this literally have nothing wrong with them
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There's certainly thousands upon thousands mate who will have had it and not even had a smidge of a symptom. I've seen my wife have it and be ill, my daughter (aged 7) have it and suffer with vomiting and it put me in hospital and gave my body the severest of beatings. Its very random, even in the hospital it wasn't like every person looked the same or had the same symptoms. Its dangerous, I'm very aware of that and all I know mate is I think it will be very difficult to suppress without the vaccine. That's the big key for me, get it into our most vulnerable, mums and dads and grandparents and key workers and NHS staff and I honestly believe we'll get back to a form of normality that is enjoyable for the vast majority of folk.

Unfortunately there's a lot of massively selfish stupid people out there, but I have no time for them so I'm all for helping those that want us to move forward together and get ourselves out of this mess hopefully in one piece.
 
Brennan said:
Got a negative test result, but the app is still telling me I have to self isolate for 10 days.

What lol
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The App thing is utter madness.
The amount we’ve got off work now is ridiculous and we’re not even the worse in the region.
Legally I guess it’s a minefield for the employer.
Amazed mine hasn’t gone off.
 
maccavennie said:
Aye Ray they've had it tough that's for sure being locked away from loved ones friends and family. Like you said, just a little delivery can make their day as well.

Just waiting for my sisters shift to finish to see how she's getting on. 10 days in isolation and her boss thought it was a great idea to give her 3 x12 hour shifts as a welcome back.
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Most have their meds delivered as well.
 
davek said:
Well read to the posts on this thread and you should have no problem.

Read that one by @wainy above for instance, and many more like them.

Just to simply keep on stating "I dont get how it happens" is very strange. It's as though you've given up the will to understand.
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I understand. I just cant compute it. Cos I dont see the stuff that others do.

In 2 weeks, me and Mrs R will reach a year of own lockdown. As I have said numerous times, we are fortunate that circumstances dictate we are ok, as long as I dont dont get it. So, for a year, I have gone out of my way not to.

Its not a problem, its a pain, but its Ok.

Thats what I dont get.
 
roydo said:
I understand. I just cant compute it. Cos I dont see the stuff that others do.

In 2 weeks, me and Mrs R will reach a year of own lockdown. As I have said numerous times, we are fortunate that circumstances dictate we are ok, as long as I dont dont get it. So, for a year, I have gone out of my way not to.

Its not a problem, its a pain, but its Ok.

Thats what I dont get.
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I think I do get it.

You have looked after your Mrs having looked death in the face.

You will do anything not to have to do that again.

You stick to the lockdown rules perfectly and you won’t catch it if you continue to do so. Well that’s the plan anyway.

A lot of people just think there invincible.
Well, there not are they.
 
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