Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[JamesEFC]

Would these pharmacies though have the facilities and know-how to deal with a major allergic reaction ?

Yes, I’m a pharmacist and have done around 5-600 flu jabs a year since I qualified 6 years ago.

We have regular training either yearly or every other year, the actual injection part is extremely simple so it’s basically all first aid training about how to deal with different types reactions and have multiple ampoules of adrenaline and auto injectors ready to go.

 

[mahermi1]

Yes, I’m a pharmacist and have done around 5-600 flu jabs a year since I qualified 6 years ago.

We have regular training either yearly or every other year, the actual injection part is extremely simple so it’s basically all first aid training about how to deal with different types reactions and have multiple ampoules of adrenaline and auto injectors ready to go.

Fair enough, advice off a qualified person is very welcome, but you can understand my concerns over family having a serious allergy, especially over what you have heard on the news, about this vaccine and the serious allergic reaction.

 

[JamesEFC]

Fair enough, advice off a qualified person is very welcome, but you can understand my concerns over family having a serious allergy, especially over what you have heard on the news, about this vaccine and the serious allergic reaction.

Of course, and you’re right to question it. We are limited to who we can vaccinate though, anyone with a history or severe allergies, allergic reaction to vaccines or certain chemicals/drugs etc are a no go and they have to go the GP anyway. So that reduces the risk of it occurring in a pharmacy setting.

It’s quite well thought out though, even the other staff for example are trained on what to do in an emergency, who to phone, what exactly to say etc , as the pharmacist wouldn’t leave the patient.

 

[sbbefc]

I now know more people who have had the jab than have had the virus. Seems very promising to me. Doesn't make up for the highest death till in Europe mind.

 

[COYBL25]

Yes, I’m a pharmacist and have done around 5-600 flu jabs a year since I qualified 6 years ago.

We have regular training either yearly or every other year, the actual injection part is extremely simple so it’s basically all first aid training about how to deal with different types reactions and have multiple ampoules of adrenaline and auto injectors ready to go.

Will you receive any extra training on how to safely vaccinate people in the bogs in Asda ?

Like, how to keep the cubicle door shut with one foot if the door lock is broken for instance.

 

[Cool_Blue]

Since Wales went into lockdown in mid December cases have come downView attachment 114114

Conwy county:
The week 8 Dec - 14 Dec, 82 cases per 100,000
The week 3 Jan - 9 Jan, 216 cases per 100,000
That’s not my definition of cases coming down since mid December. I’m hoping those figures are going to fall substantially very soon.

But I say again, hospitality can’t be to blame, it’s been shut down for over 3 weeks. There’s a girl parking on the pavement outside my place 2 or 3 nights every week, visiting her boyfriend and staying overnight each time. God knows where else she goes/works the rest of the week. That right there is the problem.

 

[JamesEFC]

Will you receive any extra training on how to safely vaccinate people in the bogs in Asda ?

Like, how to keep the cubicle door shut with one foot if the door lock is broken for instance.

Yes mate already been signed off on that, they particularly like it when you reuse the needles

 

[mahermi1]

Of course, and you’re right to question it. We are limited to who we can vaccinate though, anyone with a history or severe allergies, allergic reaction to vaccines or certain chemicals/drugs etc are a no go and they have to go the GP anyway. So that reduces the risk of it occurring in a pharmacy setting.

It’s quite well thought out though, even the other staff for example are trained on what to do in an emergency, who to phone, what exactly to say etc , as the pharmacist wouldn’t leave the patient.

Excellent mate, a, load of good information their thanks, that was my main point, my lad has a peanut allergy and I will take him the hospital for it when his turn comes up. That's if they even give him the vaccine because there was talk of people with severe allergies, not being given it. Btw if needs be and I am offered the vaccine off a Pharmacist, I'll have no problem getting it off one. Especially after the advice you have given me. Nice one.

 

[COYBL25]

Yes mate already been signed off on that, they particularly like it when you reuse the needles

@davek will be able to sleep soundly with that knowledge.

Thanks very much.

 

[JamesEFC]

Excellent mate, a, load of good information their thanks, that was my main point, my lad has a peanut allergy and I will take him the hospital for it when his turn comes up. That's if they even give him the vaccine because there was talk of people with severe allergies, not being given it. Btw if needs be and I am offered the vaccine off a Pharmacist, I'll have no problem getting it off one. Especially after the advice you have given me. Nice one.

Not a problem mate, as I say if that’s the case with your lad he won’t be put in that situation he’d be given it under very careful supervision I imagine.
I’m far from an expert and there’s a lot I don’t know but happy to help

 

[davek]

Yes mate already been signed off on that, they particularly like it when you reuse the needles

Pharmacies in Asda: better to have them administered in a pharmacy outside an environment registering high numbers of infections?

 

[JamesEFC]

Pharmacies in Asda: better to have them administered in a pharmacy outside an environment registering high numbers of infections?

Honestly, without wanting to sit on the fence here I can see both sides of the argument.

think it comes down to a case by case basis, no two pharmacies are the same. I’ve worked in supermarkets were the pharmacy is by the entrance, wide open aisles and spacious consultation rooms, get some kind of appointment and spaced queue system going, rigorous cleaning in between jabs etc and will be fine.
And I’ve also worked in some traditional “high street” chemists were the consultation room is the size of a cubicle

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

This example underlines exactly why you'd be right to avoid a supermarket and seeking a medical centre first for the vaccine. It's possible to have a relapse after the initial recovery adrenaline shot..by which time you'd be out of Asda and back home.

2 Alaska Health Workers Got Emergency Treatment After Receiving Pfizer’s Vaccine

One of the workers, who did not have a history of allergies, remained in the hospital on Wednesday night. Some reactions to the vaccine were also reported last week in Britain.

www.nytimes.com

It's that dodgy Pfizer vaccine. They should have waited for the Oxford one.

 

[davek]

Honestly, without wanting to sit on the fence here I can see both sides of the argument.

think it comes down to a case by case basis, no two pharmacies are the same. I’ve worked in supermarkets were the pharmacy is by the entrance, wide open aisles and spacious consultation rooms, get some kind of appointment and spaced queue system going, rigorous cleaning in between jabs etc and will be fine.
And I’ve also worked in some traditional “high street” chemists were the consultation room is the size of a cubicle

I can accept the logic of using a supermarket setting for younger groups; but there are people who have been shileding for 10 months who are extremely vulnerable and have been advised to stay at home for the vast majority of this crisis. To tell them to get down to the local supermarket is heartless and dangerous.

We really should have home visits for that group, but of course that's almost like science fiction in this country now where local area health organisation has been degraded so much.

 

[davek]

It's that dodgy Pfizer vaccine. They should have waited for the Oxford one.

I'd rather have Tizer injected into me...which could actiually happen in Asda.