Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[JamesEFC]

I can accept the logic of using a supermarket setting for younger groups; but there are people who have been shileding for 10 months who are extremely vulnerable and have ben advised to stay at home for the vast majority of this crisis. To tell them to get down to the local supermarket is heartless and dangerous.

We really should have home visits for that group, but of course that's almost like science fiction in this country now where local area health organisation has been degraded so much.

Yes I agree, for what it’s worth I think when/if it’s widely rolled out to pharmacies the vast majority of the vulnerable and shielding will have been done already. That’s when we can help with a mass rollout in my opinion.

The majority of the flu jabs I’ve done this year are “healthy” under 60’s with those over 60 and with underlying health conditions been done by GP’s, that worked well and complimented each other, hopefully this will be the same.

 

[davek]

Yes I agree, for what it’s worth I think when/if it’s widely rolled out to pharmacies the vast majority of the vulnerable and shielding will have been done already. That’s when we can help with a mass rollout in my opinion.

The majority of the flu jabs I’ve done this year are “healthy” under 60’s with those over 60 and with underlying health conditions been done by GP’s, that worked well and complimented each other, hopefully this will be the same.

Only certain GPs will be set up storage-wise to deliver the jabs. That will mean a hell of a lot of the shielding groups travelling a fair distance to larger vaccination centres. Not all danger cant be eradicated of course, but that's a great burden on people over 80 with perhaps / probably no transport. To all intents and purposes those people are house bound and should, in any decent society, have a district nurse attending them for the jab.

 

[Cool_Blue]

I'd rather have Tizer injected into me...which could actiually happen in Asda.

Dave, out of interest, when your turn comes, will you enquire as to which vaccine they’re about to stick in your arm? And if it’s the gnats piss one, will you say ‘No thanks’?

 

[davek]

Dave, out of interest, when your turn comes, will you enquire as to which vaccine they’re about to stick in your arm? And if it’s the gnats piss one, will you say ‘No thanks’?

I'll take what's offered - on the basis that these murderer's have probably secured a fraction of vaccines they claim they've ordered.

 

[RAFUH]

Have they started using pharmacies in supermarkets to vaccinate those in vulnerable groups?

They are doing 75+ age group now.

 

[davek]

They are doing 75+ age group now.

In supermarkets?

Are supermarkets over there as conspicuous spreaders of the virus they are here?

 

[RAFUH]

In supermarkets?

Are supermarkets over there as conspicuous spreaders of the virus they are here?

They aren't having hundreds of folks lining up.

They schedule appointments so everything is nicely staggered to keep numbers in the pharmacy area (and store in general) down.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Hospital figures - 1036 deaths were announced today, down 118 on yesterday and up 231 on last Thursday. 884 deaths were in English hospitals, down 128 on yesterday and up 223 on last week. The 7 day rolling average rises to 831.29

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 1248 deaths were announced today, down 316 on yesterday and up 86 on last Thursday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 1072.43

For the 60 day cut off, 1320 deaths were announced today, down 417 on yesterday and up 41 on last Thursday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 1161.43

 

[BlueToff]

Only certain GPs will be set up storage-wise to deliver the jabs. That will mean a hell of a lot of the shielding groups travelling a fair distance to larger vaccination centres. Not all danger cant be eradicated of course, but that's a great burden on people over 80 with perhaps / probably no transport. To all intents and purposes those people are house bound and should, in any decent society, have a district nurse attending them for the jab.

Dave my nan just got vaccinated at a tiny clinic in Barnsley and my granddad got vaccinated at an even smaller one in Penistone.

The GPs seem to be managing so far?

My nan lives a 5 min drive from the clinic and Penistone (no laughing at the back) is about 10 mins drive from where my granddad lives.

I'm sure they're using an approach of ensuring any over 70s/80s aren't having to trek miles to a vaccination centre.

 

[BlueToff]

Also, just a random thought but I've just realised that I now know of more people who have had the vaccine than I personally know of that have definitely had COVID.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not saying that to detract from covid, claim it's just the flu, or that it's a hoax.

Just happy that my housemate, my nana and granddad (and his wife), my aunt, and both of my other housemates' grandparents (so four in total) have had their jabs in the last week.

Bit worried about my sister, as she's got asthma and is now pregnant. They haven't tested the vaccine on pregnant women, obviously, so not sure when she'll be able to get it.

She's due in the summer and as she's very health other than the asthma and is 23, I guess she'd be in a group getting done after that anyway.

 

[davek]

Dave my nan just got vaccinated at a tiny clinic in Barnsley and my granddad got vaccinated at an even smaller one in Penistone.

The GPs seem to be managing so far?

My nan lives a 5 min drive from the clinic and Penistone (no laughing at the back) is about 10 mins drive from where my granddad lives.

I'm sure they're using an approach of ensuring any over 70s/80s aren't having to trek miles to a vaccination centre.

Yorkshire and the north east have been given a lot of vaccine.

And a 10 minute drive is still a fair distance to be travelling if someine doesn't own a car - and given that those people are usually shielding a bus or taxi is a danger.

 

[cooperman]

I hope so. On a positive note, my folks got their first jab this evening. They had to go Maghull though...WTF is all that about?

I heard of someone being offered one in Bristol.

Too late for my grandad, he's gone into hospital with it yesterday, he was already in a pretty bad way anyway, so expecting the worst.

Covid infection induces high levels of immunity but patients still able to carry virus, study shows

Natural immunity lasts at least five months, according to research from Public Health England

www.independent.co.uk

Interesting article... Could it be that the people showing as asymptomatic are actually people who have previously got over the virus?

 

[BlueToff]

Yorkshire and the north east have been given a lot of vaccine.

And a 10 minute drive is still a fair distance to be travelling if someine doesn't own a car - and given that those people are usually shielding a bus or taxi is a danger.

Then I guess they will be offered them at home if they can't drive or if a carer cannot get them there?

 

[PhilM]

They are doing 75+ age group now.

Going purely from what I've seen, the administration of the vaccine appears to be going by an individual's Dr surgery with priorities of age et al. within that.

I know a couple in their nineties who've not been offered it as of yet, an eighty-three year old who had it last week (or the one before) but one who hasn't.

There's also someone in their late seventies who've had it today, but with no real serious underlying health issues. It'd be interesting to see the rationale.

 

[arminisgod]

Also, just a random thought but I've just realised that I now know of more people who have had the vaccine than I personally know of that have definitely had COVID.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not saying that to detract from covid, claim it's just the flu, or that it's a hoax.

Just happy that my housemate, my nana and granddad (and his wife), my aunt, and both of my other housemates' grandparents (so four in total) have had their jabs in the last week.

Bit worried about my sister, as she's got asthma and is now pregnant. They haven't tested the vaccine on pregnant women, obviously, so not sure when she'll be able to get it.

She's due in the summer and as she's very health other than the asthma and is 23, I guess she'd be in a group getting done after that anyway.

More people have been vaccinated than tested positive in the uk.

Nuts