Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

Oxford vaccine, will you take it Yes or No.

Thanks.

If it's the only one available, yes. If there's any choice in the matter, no.

 

[Kenshin]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/09/covi...-second-lockdown-quietly-downgraded-13724636/

Concerns have been raised about Covid-19 figures used by the Government to trigger a second national lockdown after they were dramatically lowered restrospectively. The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has dropped its estimate of the infection rate of coronavirus in England at the end of October by almost half.

But figures predicted by the MRC Biostatistics Unit Covid-19 Working Group were later altered and said cases started falling in October due to a mixture of restrictions introduced that month along with ‘the temporary decrease in activity over the half-term period, and the lockdown.’

So numbers were falling before the lockdown ? But we locked down based on estimates that doubled the actual numbers?

 

[Billy Dean]

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Wonder if Americans will have to pay for the vaccine or do they get it via insurance?

 

[davek]

Virologist, Stephen Griffin, on Oxford vaccine:

"The lower efficacy has to be balanced against the practicalities of vaccinating everyone who needs it. It’s going to come down to a cost-benefit analysis,” he says.


There we have it in a nutshell.

 

[davek]

'No idea' when Oxford Covid vaccine will be approved by regulator | ITV News

Dr Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the University of Oxford, said she did not know when the MHRA could draw its conclusions about the vaccine.

www.itv.com

My guess is that this Oxford vaccine wont be getting a license anytime soon, due to its unconvincing data on how it helps the older population.

 

[BlueToff]

Hospitality job losses have hit 650,000.
Just as a comparison, in the early 80’s, 180,000 miners lost their jobs...

 

[BlueToff]

'No idea' when Oxford Covid vaccine will be approved by regulator | ITV News

Dr Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the University of Oxford, said she did not know when the MHRA could draw its conclusions about the vaccine.

www.itv.com

My guess is that this Oxford vaccine wont be getting a license anytime soon, due to its unconvincing data on how it helps the older population.

Well ensure people on the frontline or like Maggie or ol' William have the Pfizer vaccine.

The younger, less at risk groups get the less effective one.

It's not hard.

 

[davek]

Well ensure people on the frontline or like Maggie or ol' William have the Pfizer vaccine.

The younger, less at risk groups get the less effective one.

It's not hard.

I agree. However, that isn't the plan. As soon as the oxford vaccine is approved it;ll quickly be rolled out. THAT is a problem given how unconvincing the Oxford testing has been on older volunteers in their groups.

 

[Wizard]

No, we should have the circa 12 Million at risk / over 65s with access only to the better vaccines. That wont happen though. They may say they've committed to 40 million doses of Pfizer, but the Oxford vaccine will be getting rolled out way before anything like that figure is secured.

The upshot is that north Americans and those living in the EU will be seeing their at risk populations better protected than ours.

The USA have only ordered 100m Pfizer vaccines, enough for 15% of their population whereas we have ordered enough for over 25% of ours

 

[ste d' indica]

Hospitality job losses have hit 650,000.
Just as a comparison, in the early 80’s, 180,000 miners lost their jobs...

Its grim news, and please understand my girlfriend is redundant due to her restaurant closing so I'm fully aware of the severity, but at least, at some point people will start eating out, going the pub, staying in hotels. There'll be a lasting impact no doubt, but were it not for Brexit I'd be somewhat optimistic, at very best there will be less disposable income next year.

 

[Nymzee]

"When the flu vaccines are made, the virus is grown in the yolk of fertilised hens eggs,"

Learn something new everyday

Who even thinks to try that.

 

[peteblue]

Approval is as much a political decision as a medical one. Do you think the MHRA are fully independent of government and big pharma?

Dont be naive.

Indeed I do believe they are independent. If anyone is harmed or indeed killed by not scrupulously following the process then corporate manslaughter charges would be brought.....

 

[COYBL25]

Hospitality job losses have hit 650,000.
Just as a comparison, in the early 80’s, 180,000 miners lost their jobs...

Not to worry, as the economy will reset itself and it’ll all be fine.

 

[ste d' indica]

Who even thinks to try that.

Vaccinologists by the looks of it.